Mileposter Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) I am strongly considering Chaos Daemons as my next army, and with what I'm seeing, perhaps main army. Love the models, the modeling opportunity for shenanigans, and the playstyle being very different from what I currently run. And I haven't seen many people running straight Daemons so being the special snowflake a slight appeal (It was either that or Genestealer Cults!). But I've gotten myself a little stuck on which Chaotic Patron to build with! I don't want to do Nurgle, I don't like what Tzeentch has to offer, but I've really liked what I've seen with both Khorne and Slaanesh. So I built two 1500 point lists (this helps me figure out what to buy and paint when starting a new army) and I still can't quite decide. I like them both for different reasons. So I figured I'd toss them up here for some classic B&C opinionations. Tear these lists apart. Why wouldn't they work? What's better? Am I totally thinking these Gods playstyles wrong? Do you just like Khorne's models better than Slaanesh's? Is the opportunity for modelling breasts for Slaanesh just too great a temptation? Looking for how folks feel in hopes that the ideas will sway me one way or the other. EDIT: (Snip!) These lists are no longer valid, as I've changed my shopping list up about a dozen times since this. Poof! Edited October 16, 2017 by Pentharian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorenus Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Most people will probably give you advice to choose a pantheon based on which style of models you like. This is rubbish. The only correct answer is Khorne. This is not my personal opinion, this is objectively verifiable fact. You can check the math. Just ask any of the Dark Gods and they will all tell you they wish they were Khorne. Emicus, Khornestar, Confused Word Bearer and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Ipsa Loquitur Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Khorne and Slaanesh Daemons both want to be in melee, Slaanesh is faster, "rends" and swings first. Slaanesh marines are shooty and synergise better with the respective Daemons. Berzekers + Bloodletters is just more of the same. Plus, boobs. Kierdale, Aothaine and Slave to Darkness 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused Word Bearer Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Khorne is the strongest of the four Chaos gods. Therefore the answer is simple, Khorne should be your patron! He gets power from war, and what is the 41st millenium but an endless state of war? In your lists your lesser Daemons are in 10’s, I’d say you should go for having them in 20+ blobs in order for them to be more likely to survive the walk there as well as get their size bonuses if there’s still enough alive. Oh, but then again a Batallion needs three troop choices, so that is something to consider. Have you though about making a pure Daemon and pure CSM detachment in order for your CSM to get the legion/renegade bonuses? Daemons will probably get something similar for their codex as well, if it means anything to you. Vorenus and Amon777 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Plus, boobs. Kierdale and Vorenus 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark_elf Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 I just have to chime in... Slaanesh. But in all seriousness, if steady support from GW / FW is important to you then Khorne hands down. They have constant support from GW / FW over the years. - Blood Slaughterer - Kytan - 3 Blood Thirsters Variants - Lord of Skulls - Skarbrand (named Greater Demon, Slaanesh has 0) - Herald from FW - Daemon Prince from FW - Skaarac This doesn't include the AOS range of models which convert nicely to 40K with simple weapon / limb swaps or additions such as back packs. Hell they even have a dreadnought sized creature that many use as a Hellbrute or Demon Prince. In contrast Slaanesh has had no support for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileposter Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share Posted October 16, 2017 The lists in the initial posts are no longer relevant, so I've removed them. I've changed my shopping list about a dozen times since I posted that. Given some feedback from users here (both public and private), Mathammer, personal reflection, and consulting the beating of butterfly wings, I've selected Slaanesh. In your lists your lesser Daemons are in 10’s, I’d say you should go for having them in 20+ blobs in order for them to be more likely to survive the walk there as well as get their size bonuses if there’s still enough alive. Oh, but then again a Batallion needs three troop choices, so that is something to consider.In a 1500 pt list, it's hard to get more than 20 in a blob with what I was looking at - and then all an opponent has to do is kill one model and I'm sitting with only the downsides. While I'm not exactly stuck on having a Battalion, it seemed a smart place to start and this allows me to get different targets with melee rather than being stuck on one blob at a time. In a 2k game I'll definitely be bringing a couple blobs of 30. That +1 A is powerful. Have you though about making a pure Daemon and pure CSM detachment in order for your CSM to get the legion/renegade bonuses? Daemons will probably get something similar for their codex as well, if it means anything to you.I've now made sure that all of my detachments are pure Daemons and Chaos Marines. But in all seriousness, if steady support from GW / FW is important to you then Khorne hands down. They have constant support from GW / FW over the years. [...] In contrast Slaanesh has had no support for years. Getting some love from GW isn't a requirement for me (hell, I considered Sisters of Battle before Daemons), so that part wasn't a factor. I'll admit that the Khorne models look way cooler out of the box, the lack of GW love just said "More chances for custom models!" in my head. Kierdale and Panzer 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Ipsa Loquitur Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Given some feedback from users here (both public and private), Mathammer, personal reflection, and consulting the beating of butterfly wings, I've selected Slaanesh. And there was much rejoicing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Eye Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Excellent news, another one joins the disciples of debauchery! Kierdale and Res Ipsa Loquitur 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Ipsa Loquitur Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Probably a bit late... but also FWIW the Start Collecting Daemons of Slaanesh box is crazy good value. Here in Canada it's nearly half the price of buying the individual units separately (if you make two Hellflayers/Seeker Chariots instead of one Exalted Chariot). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kierdale Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 “Another joins the cause party? How delightful!” Celebratory blastmaster solo Panzer and Plaguecaster 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 *Plays a shredding Air Sonic Blaster riff* Widdilly widdily widdily Vorenus 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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