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Mars and Stygies VIII- 2000 pts


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Working on lists and realised the first iteration i had of this didnt work at all.

 

Battalion detachment- Stygies VIII

 

Techpriest dominus

Enginseer

 

2 units of 5 rangers with 2 arquebuses in each

unit of 5 vanguard

 

15 fulgurite priests

3 fisty robots

 

Mars spearhead detachment

 

Cawl

 

datasmith

 3 shooty robots

2 neutron onagers

 

I have 50 points left and dont know want to spend them on.

 

Plan is Cawl firebase. fulgurites and robots and enginseer infiltrate. Mix it up a bit.


Edited by Lord Morgrim, 15 October 2017 - 08:17 AM.

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Fist robots not good . Make them range with Cawl and wrath of mars. Rest are a good plan but dragoons in a unit of 4+ are best for infiltrate same as full priests.

So make robots all dakka maybe take 5 robots and take stygia dragoons as many as possible . Dominus you don't need so enginseers also there. And you LL be super fine
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Thanks. I would like to add some dragoons but they are so expensive! Why are the fists no good? Run the Dragoons as they come?


Edited by Lord Morgrim, 15 October 2017 - 09:52 AM.

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It's a matter of resources. Robots are ws 4+ bs 4+ both not good. Cawl let's you reroll and you want him for all mars units. If you face an enemy with -1 hit maybe like a flier Cawl will give stability on 4+ rerolls. To get Cawl in your list you need to invest points . Not good to have Cawl for 2 robots and an onager you need if I'm correct 750+ to get a return. And you should. The way the codex is designed it suits bigger units. Cause of stratagems . You got really limited so you gotta decide one plan. Cawl buffs LL shooting so easy to understand with wrath of mars shooting it will be. Now if you believe destroyers are the best (they are not) take 9 wrath of mars and gg. But atm the best ones are robots cause of the amount of dice.

1) fistelans harder to buff
2) 242 points for 3 att each
3) no melee invu
4) no protocol synergy can't fire flamer if go for dual attacks and you will loose aegis .

Fistelans are really bad need some form of revamp. Their role is to advance by foot towards enemy drawing enemy fire and give some final blows. Won't happen cause even if they make it even if they draw enemy fire their cc capabilities are not good vs elite enemy cc. And that's why you got them.

Dragoons are cheap really cheap they get a -2 to hit them in 12+" and that's makes them an extreme option for multi role like screener tar pit advance fast obj capper. New codex offers a stratagems any skitarii unit +1 to hit if with data tether then +2 that makes dragoon hit on 1+ and explode on 4+ each 4 will give you 3 hits. So a unit of 6 can generate more than 25+ hits. For 8 str -1 AP 2 w it's cheap.

Tip the problem is not see number of shots. You could take 10 infiltrators and wrath of mars. But their 50 shots would be str 3!!! We need wrath of mars for mortal wounds and atm Robots and staff priests give the best 2 options. So if you play friendly game you can try fistelans and backed up from destroyers and with good result. But if you facing Magnus and Mortarion you might wanna take 6 dakka bots and maybe maybe you can do something to a 2-3+ invu!!!
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Thank you for the reply. I shall have a look at my list and drop the fist robots and then bump up the priests to 20 and the shoots robots as much as I can
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How about this one ?

 

Stygies Battalion

Dominus

Enginseer

2 by 5 Ranger with 2 arquebus

1 unit of 5 Vanguard

20 Fulgurite priests

3 Dragoons

 

Mars Spearhead

Cawl

Datasmith

4 shooty robots

2 onagers with neutron and extra stubber


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You got only 4 robots you can try without datasmith? When you get dakka robots in position use binary stratagems and make them stationary double shoot.

Overall this list will do best ad mech can do! Solo. If you want 200-250 guard it can help. Valid list already .

You can try less priest more Robots you can take stock rangers for extra neutron etc. What you LL decide only play testing can make more fine tunning in this list. Play it many times and make your decisions. You can always add more dragoons neutronagers dakkastelans. If you see more in your style go for it. Good luck.
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