Triszin Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 So I'm about half way through this book and I'm kinda scratching my head. so Sicarius and his band of marines enter a training simulation and data capture facility for tau. They are fighting through, fight a ghost keel a riptide then they enter the next chamber. In it the Tau Vat grew space marines and put them in salvaged armor they repaired. like what. If they have the ability to do this then why arent the tau using these pseudo space marines as assault troopers. THey werent the Cybernetic drones that hte kroot were in this complex, they were organic and vat grown. can anyone explain, or give there thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 (edited) Cawl had Super SM for 10 millennia frozen. I don't even care anymore. How old is that fluff? They could just be experimenting to find weaknesses in the Astartes Edited November 2, 2017 by Sete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triszin Posted November 2, 2017 Author Share Posted November 2, 2017 Cawl had Super SM for 10 millennia frozen. I don't even care anymore. How old is that fluff? They could just be experimenting to find weaknesses in the Astartes The fluff is recent, came out before or during the Damocles Warzone campaign. It was noted that the Vat grown Marines performed significantly poorer than real marines, 10 marines (sic included) took out 2 squads of assault marines and a full tac squad in a few minutes, but they were using marine equipment. I honestly wouldn't mind it too much, as I actually kind of want a Marine chapter in the lore to join the greater good. even if its a Alpha marine ploy they also alluded to, I think, a Larger Broadside unit that had pulse/rapid plasma weapons, with a flacet defense system. might of been a reference to the massive forgeworld tau unit Sete 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Well to be honest I didn't knew this fluff. So don't know what to make of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Gneecapper Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 (edited) Well to be honest I didn't knew this fluff. So don't know what to make of it. Clearly it means it's time to declare a crusade on their fish asses for this ultimate heresy. I'll proceed to locating the nearest Tau I can find and begin punching their stupid head slits for tainting His creations with their xeno's tech and failed cloning attempts. Well to be honest I didn't knew this fluff. So don't know what to make of it. Edited November 2, 2017 by Brother_Gneecapper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogWelder Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 (edited) This is also the book where Cato Sicarius straps two Assault Marine jetpacks to his body, rockets up into the sky to reach the altitude of Tau Sunshark bombers, jumps on their wings and proceeds to behead/plasma pistol their pilots before jumping off and landing safely thanks to the remaining fuel in one of the jetpacks soooooo..... Edited November 2, 2017 by DogWelder DarkChaplain 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 This is also the book where Cato Sicarius straps two Assault Marine jetpacks to his body, rockets up into the sky to reach the altitude of Tau Sunshark bombers, jumps on their wings and proceeds to behead/plasma pistol their pilots before jumping off and landing safely thanks to the remaining fuel in one of the jetpacks soooooo..... In other words, it is a Phil Kelly book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 This is also the book where Cato Sicarius straps two Assault Marine jetpacks to his body, rockets up into the sky to reach the altitude of Tau Sunshark bombers, jumps on their wings and proceeds to behead/plasma pistol their pilots before jumping off and landing safely thanks to the remaining fuel in one of the jetpacks soooooo..... In other words, it is a Phil Kelly book. That was the first thing which came into my mind. "Oh...that does sound like Phil Kelly..." My second thought was "Oh...someone's trying to do a second Sevatar, hm?" http://replygif.net/i/247.gif bluntblade 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogWelder Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 (edited) Oh did I also mention that Cato later proceeds to draw a huge Ultramarines symbol in the middle of an open desert field with a flamethrower in the middle of the night while the air was swarming with Tau fliers as he waved his luminescent power sword and screamed "WE ARE THE ULTRAMARINES" at the top of his lungs. The best part is that this plan actually worked out in the end. Edited November 3, 2017 by DogWelder Triszin 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Oh did I also mention that Cato later proceeds to draw a huge Ultramarines symbol in the middle of an open desert field with a flamethrower in the middle of the night while the air was swarming with Tau fliers as he waved his luminescent power sword and screamed "WE ARE THE ULTRAMARINES" at the top of his lungs. The best part is that this plan actually worked out in the end. That just tops everything...what kind of plan was it? A distraction? I seems like Phil went nuts with this book. oO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 So tau space marines and c.s.goto levels of silliness? Is that what this is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sothalor Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 This book sounds... ridiculous. And not in the "it's 40K and of course it's ridiculous and that's part of its charm" way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triszin Posted November 3, 2017 Author Share Posted November 3, 2017 I finshed it. okay, best I can say is. It's a Fever dream by Phil Kelly - This book actually takes place BEFORE (literally days/weeks) the Tyranids Invade Ultramar. This book had GHost keels, riptides, Tide Wall gunrigs, crisis commanders, Pure tide, Puretides mind download and upload It had Robotic false Kroot designed for warfare testing and advanced drones, it had Vat grown False space marines using perfectly repaired marine equipment, yet the tau couldnt understand what a Dreadnaught was or how it could have such advanced armor. This book had an Ultramarine Psyker Become invulnerable fly up a sky scrapper using the warp, throwing tanks at crisis suits, destroying a Crisis Commanders, the same psyker gating his terminator Body gaurd around every 5 seconds smashing broadsides. ( the only part I kinda liked, tau commanders and earth ccaste panicking when warp powers are used, as they dont understand whats happening) This had 5 Ultra marines with jump jets lifting a Mag lev train car and throwing it across a city street onto another building squishing 70+ firewarriors and causing a building to collapse. It had cato do parkour movements off of tau vehciles to trebuchet himself into more vehicles. What in the warp heck did I just read. Blades of Damocles: A fever dream by Phil Kelly deathspectersgt7 and Sete 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 What the...? :O Wasn't Phils codex stuff ok until now? Why and how did he get past the editors with this? He can't be serious, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 I bet the Ultramarines psyker is called Magneto. Kelborn and Triszin 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathspectersgt7 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 I bet the Ultramarines psyker is called Magneto. Triszin 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 I'm actually curious to read this one now. Reviewing that would be a blast. Let's see what used copies go for on Amazon right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triszin Posted November 3, 2017 Author Share Posted November 3, 2017 oh I forgot to mention Bravestar died Was cloned and now the clone is running around. it was implied that the other Tau heros are also being cloned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogWelder Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 .....questionable action scenes aside the book really does give Cato Sicarius and Numitor a lot of fleshing out as characters and personalities. My opinion of Cato increased exponentially after reading this and actually made me a fan of him due to his development and growth. Xisor 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 All he needs now is multi-lasers Jarl Kjaran Coldheart, bluntblade, Kelborn and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Is it bad that I wanna read this book now, just to experience the badness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagoth Ur Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Is it bad that I wanna read this book now, just to experience the badness? Isn't that one of the main appeals of watching movies like The Room? Sometimes you just have to witness such things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 I won't spend my money on trash. rendingon1+ 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendingon1+ Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 What the...? :O Wasn't Phils codex stuff ok until now? Why and how did he get past the editors with this? He can't be serious, right? It's standard Phill Kelly, both in WHFB and 40k. As for his codex stuff... Well. WOLF. He's the one responsible for SW wolf-silliness, a stigmata that will stay with the wolves till the end of times. I would hardly call his stuff "ok". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 I find it strange to see the Wolf Wolf WOLF stuff, as my introduction to the Rout (note that) was through Battle of the Fang. Looking back, as someone who didn't even google 40K until after finishing the book, it was really intuitive to understand the setting without it being "obvious". May have to buy my own copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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