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Codex Dark Angels Incoming


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Get out of here. If the Lion is indeed in the codex,it means the model won't be far behind.
But I'll believe it when I see it. I don't think it's real tho.

Edited by Sete, 04 November 2017 - 04:27 PM.

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Indeed, it seems too good to be true, I don't wanna get hurt haha!

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If the Lion is released this Xmas, yeah make space for me in the Rock.

But since Morty only came out last month... I just can't see it.

Edited by Sete, 04 November 2017 - 04:29 PM.

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Seems fishy to me.  I wouldn't get too excited, yet.


Losing 'hope' after 10k years just because of a big warp storm? Doesn't sound like my Blood Angels.

Never had hope to begin with; they had duty, and that was enough.

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Hmm. I thought the Dark Angels release would have been paired with the Thousand Sons and the Primaris Superheavy.

 

They could call the release video "The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe"


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Part of me doesn't really want to see what the model for the Lion looks like - Guilliman looked far too ridiculous in that armour of his, and I wasn't too fond of either Magnus or Mortarion. I hope that they don't give him some OTT model or armour, but I guess they will to justify the large price tag that will undoubtedly come with him.



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Well it certainly seems strange for a new primarch this soon.  We first saw Mortarion a long time ( like 6 months?) before he was released.  Without saying whether or not the rumor is true, we could be incorrect in our assumptions on the release pace of the primarchs.   With all of the 8th edition stuff, perhaps the gap between Guilliman and Mortarion could be a lot longer than most will be. 

 

 

Or not



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Hmmm... looks suspect. Hope and Despair were matched swords - Despair should be melee, like Hope, rather than being a ranged weapon....


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I started doubting this rumour at the stratagems, and dismissed it at the relics.
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A standard that let's everyone within 9" SHOOT TWICE!?!
Nah.
To salty
This is somebodies wishlist.

Edited by The Unseen, 04 November 2017 - 04:46 PM.

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As much as I want to believe those, it does seem suspicious. I will keep my excitement at low levels for now
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Was plausible until I saw the Lion.

 

A lot of the names of things are very goofy and a bit GW tho... "Hope & Despair" lol


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I guess it depends on who can take the banner.  Letting a character have it would be completely broken.  On a non character, the banner might as well say "shoot me first".



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Was plausible until I saw the Lion.

 

A lot of the names of things are very goofy and a bit GW tho... "Hope & Despair" lol

 

Well, those are already (some of) his swords in the heresy novels so that's not implausible in itself. The Lion's presence though, yeah. It would be pretty odd to just... drop a primarch in with a redone codex, released at the same time as another codex and right before christmas, when it would compete with however many other purchases and holiday boxes.

 

I would have thought GW would make a bigger deal about his return, make it the centre of releases. We knew about Mortarion and Magnus ages in advance, even if they came with armies that were rebooted to a much greater degree than the DA will be.



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You can tell its fake because the Shroud is a 4+ cover save. Come on guys really? Do we not remember how Hyped Guilli, Mortie, and Mag were?
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Thanks for sharing G8Keeper. I'm putting a big mound of salt on this, but I'm not going to shoot the messenger.

I don't know the other codexes well enough to be certain, but this seems suspiciously similar to the 7th ed ruleset. The warlord traits are fundamentally the same, as are the relics (and as Swarmlord Unleashed pointed out, the shroud of heroes granting a 4+ cover save just has to be wrong).

It feels to me like wishlisting using as much of the 7th es codex's terminology to make it sound familiar and therefore believeable. Would love to be proven wrong though, as ravenwing with sammy bubble will be insanely powerful. Seriously - big blob of black knights near sammael who will have the RW warlord trait like last time:
- moving 16" (24" if you advance")
- firing twice (banner)
- with immune to overheat plasma (stratagem)
- and rerolling misses (sammael)
And then when the enemy returns fire you
- have a 4++ or 5++ (jink + warlord trait)
- at -1 to hit (you did bring a darkshroud right?)

Too good to be true in my books
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I would swallow a ton of salt to make this happen! laugh.png

 

I am also sceptical but wouldn't dismiss it completly. Probably GW uses a different approach in making DA (espec. DW and RW) competitive: Instead of reducing point costs they might turn DA into a truely elitist force.


Edited by WingCommander, 04 November 2017 - 08:18 PM.


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8th Ed is all about bubbles of making numbers better, whilst salt is ready it doesn't seem that far fetched.

 

@TWA: I would hazard a guess that Ravenwing and Deathwing Ancients can only take their Company Banners and not a Sacred Standard; so a little less for those guys, but Greenwing shooty blob will be amazing (if true).


Edited by Interrogator Stobz, 04 November 2017 - 08:49 PM.
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@TWA: I would hazard a guess that Ravenwing and Deathwing Ancients can only take their Company Banners and not a Sacred Standard; so a little less for those guys, but Greenwing shooty blob will be amazing (if true).

 

 

That's a good point, Stobz. I guess it just makes the already strong Azrael castle even more powerful now...


Edited by Interrogator Stobz, 04 November 2017 - 08:50 PM.

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Looking over those DA "leaks," I can see them being partially true. I.e. the "shoot twice" banner could have some kind of modifier that the leaker missed like "once per game" or on a 4+ or something.

 

Salt as always, but I think a lot of the rumors we've seen lately have gotten the gist of things right, if not the precise details.



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Yep; I wouldn't start writing a list around this info, but it would not totally surprise me to see something similar on release.


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So... If DW use the Stratagem to shoot twice and are in the dakka banner bubble, how many times do they shoot? :P

Too good to be true, but given what we have seen this is not quite enough to dismiss it entirely. If this is true, I will dig up my DA though, but I doubt anyone would have fun playing against it. Do you have any idea what it means to have a Leviathan, Repulsor or some of the Superheavies fire twice?

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I could see the banner maybe only affecting infantry or something, that would tone it down a bit.

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I doubt that anyone of these will have the keyword <unforgiven>. My guess is that it will work like chapter tactics, i.e. the bonus is limited to infantry and in this case regular dreads.






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