Design your Land Raider - C:SM edition

[Frater Cornelius]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/11/18/get-ready-chapter-approved-nov-18gw-homepage-post-3/

 

Ho boy. The Land Raider thing when though. I have two reaction. One, I am extremely happy, since we get to convert stuff. The second one is utter fury and hate with every fiber of my body because Primaris can't use Land Raiders.

 

Nevertheless, let's discuss fun and competitive stuff. It really looks like every weapon is fair game. They even mentioned Helfrost for SW.

 

Personally, I am not sure which one to take, but I am looking at Chronus for UM. Seeing as the Repulsor does a better job at clearing chaff, probably Plasmas and Las. But if you don't run the Repulsor, you probably want Twin AC at the front, Hurricanes and HB sponsons at the side, maybe even a SB at the top. This will mow down any infantry unit there is Oo

 

Alright, your turn ;)

[rye0006]

As many assault cannons as physically possible!

[Frater Cornelius]

Well, we are limited to weapon configurations that actually exist on other models as far as I can tell. Unless they went ham on biscuits here, I would assume they you can't have AC sponsons because they do not exist in 40k as of yet.

[Stercus]

Ok, for tank killing goodness, how about: twin linked lascannons in rear sponson mounts, twinlinked lascannons in front turret mount, twinlinked multimeltas in front sponson mount, multimeltas in both top hatch mounts.

Anything with armour at either long or short range is going to consist mainly of holes and melted bits after one volley.

 

Or for anti infantry shenanigans: hurricane bolters in front sponsons, hurricane bolters in rear sponsons, twinlinked Assault cannons in front turret, storm bolters in both top hatch mounts. Almost too many bullets flying about the place.

[Quixus]

I wonder how additional sponsons and alternate turret weapons will change the transport capacity. Too bad that with only two TL Lascannon sponsons the capacity is already down to 10. GW should really increase the capacity of the Phobos pattern.

[SydonianDragoon404]

I'm thinking about Land Raiders as being a transport first, a gunboat second. I want it as cheap as possible with still have a small bit of bite, so Hurricane Bolters and twin heavy bolters. 

[NovemberIX]

I've had a few ideas percolate up, some a little more odd than others.

 

 

A close in assault raider with assault cannons and twin multi-melta sponsons (courtesy of the storm fang) could be a fun transport, hatch mounted heavy flamer.

 

A multi-range tank hunter with turret and sponson mounted twin las-cannons and the previous twin multi-melta sponsons, hatch mounted multi melta.

 

The Bolt Farmers Raider is Twin Heavy Bolter Turret, Heavy Bolter front sponsons, Hurricane bolter Rear sponsons, Storm Bolter on the hatch.

 

A land Raider Helios, but instead of lascannons, Sponson mounted missiles (again thanks to the storm fang), maybe some extra hunter killer missiles too, and a turret mounted heavy bolter.

 

And then here's where things get ridiculous. Hull Mounted Quad Mortar, Turret Mounted Grav amp/cannon, Front Sponson twin Multi-melta, Twin Lascannon Rear Sponson, Helios/whirlwind Launcher on the hatch.

 

And because insanity begets insanity, I present the Land Raider Terminus Omega or how I learned to stop worrying and love the melta. Hull Mounted Magna-Melta, Twin multi Melta Turret, Hurricane Melta front sponson, Quad Multi Melta rear sponson, hatch mounted multi- melta.

[Tyberos the Red Wake]

Sucks this is open play. That defeats the entire purpose. You didn't even NEED this publication: open play already allowed you to make your own modifications like this with your imagination.

 

This is like when GW would make Unbound or stuff that only works for narrative games. You don't need GW to sell you a rules product telling you how to make your own rules. That's stupid and redundant. What we need are published rules that are valid for battle-forged play.

[Frater Cornelius]

This ain't a discussion about whether we agree of disagree with this move, but to have fun and see what cool options we have. I mean, we are wishlisting all the time. I don't see the harm about discussing some cool Land Raider variants for open play ;)

[crazyterran]

I'm pretty sure it's only going to be for things they make space Marine sponsons for. So heavy bolsters, twin and normal las, hurricane bolters, flamestorm, etc

 

There's no twin mm sponsons that GW proper sells, so...

[Captain Idaho]

Based on the likelihood of the rules being for kit bashing existing models at this stage:

 

- Heavy Bolters added to a Crusader.

 

- Heavy flamers added to any Land Raider to help with dropping off embarked troops.

[NovemberIX]

I'm pretty sure it's only going to be for things they make space Marine sponsons for. So heavy bolsters, twin and normal las, hurricane bolters, flamestorm, etc

There's no twin mm sponsons that GW proper sells, so...

The afore mentioned Stormfang has rhino door sized sponsons that can mount missiles, twin multi melta, and twin heavy bolters. One of GW’s examples uses weapons from that kit. The two Land Raider Achilles from Forgeworld have Multi-melta sponsons as well (MK IIb style and phoebos style).

 

Now I am fairly sure that hull mounted weapons in the style of the Achilles and Ares aren’t necessarily in the rules, but again GW has in the past either given the option or FW sells a kit. It given GW seems to be using this chance to codify kitbashing I wouldn’t be surprised if there was some sort of logical extrapolation that could be made to make that work.

 

Now even though most of the games I play are some form of open play, and we house rule a lot of elements in our games, having a guide we can use in an effort to keep some sort of balance isn’t a bad thing, and given the VDR is coming as part of a larger set of updates makes it an easier pill to swallow. But like previously said, this is a thread for fun and wishlisting, the thread in N&R is the better place to discuss personal viewpoints on the efficacy of these rules.

[Race Bannon]

Dagnabit, I should have kept my Prometheus :cry:

[GreyCrow]

Race must be having a pretty intense evening reading all of this ! :D

 

For me it would be :

- 2 TL Lascannons on the front turret

- 1 Lascannon on each back door

- 2 TL Assault Canon on each front door

 

Probably 5 model capacity but a lot of dakka !

[Marshal_Roujakis]

0 transport capacity, Thunderfire Cannon main turret weapon (yes the TFC main cannon part actually fits on the hole where the main hull weapon is) and twin-linked Lascannons at the side...

 

5 Transport Cap, Twin Linked Heavy Flamer main hull weapon, twin-linked Multimelta side sponson... bunker smelter...

 

18 Transport Capacity, Twin-Linked Heavy Bolter main hull weapon... that's it... Space Marine Troop Carrier

 

10 Transport Cap, Twin-Grav Cannon and Grav Amp main hull weapon, Flame Storm Cannons and Frag Assault Launchers... get close and drop Space Marines...

 

8 Transport Capacity, Twin-Linked Heavy Flamers, Heavy Flamer side sponson, Flame Storm Cannon Side Sponson... "what do you mean everything's on fire?"

 

0 transport capacity, Las/Plas main hull weapon, Twin-Linked Lascannon side sponson, Plasma Cannon (FW) side Sponson... the Las/Plas

[Schlitzaf]

Rumor or wishlisting?

[Firepower]

Hmm, I think I'd make a Raider with no weapons at all.  Then it should have just enough transport capacity to transport another Raider inside of it, armed to the teeth with 16 Hurricanes and foul language!  Nesting Raider Blitz!  

[Zamtro]

The idea of a pure Dakka LR being combined with my Grey Knights Psibolts is kind of appealing thats for sure!

[Quixus]

Hmm, I think I'd make a Raider with no weapons at all.  Then it should have just enough transport capacity to transport another Raider inside of it, armed to the teeth with 16 Hurricanes and foul language!  Nesting Raider Blitz!  

ah the Babushka pattern Land Raider. ;)

[Stercus]

I'm pretty sure it's only going to be for things they make space Marine sponsons for. So heavy bolsters, twin and normal las, hurricane bolters, flamestorm, etc

There's no twin mm sponsons that GW proper sells, so...

Stormfang gunship has twin multimeltas sponsons that fit a rhino door

[CCE1981]

Hurricane Plasma guns sponsons, with twin heavy plasma cannon turrets and pintle mounted twin plasma exterminators.....this is the Dark Angels thread right?

[Captain Idaho]

My Ultramarines were using plasma before it was cool. :p

 

But yes, plasma hurricanes (nova sponsons?) and a Grav Cannon in the hull. Yum.

[CCE1981]

Nova sponsons would be an appropriate name for them. The image of firing 24 overcharged plasma shots at point blank range and causing your Land Raider to explode has some appeal to me.

[chapter master 454]

Would be fun to make the ultimate flame assault tank

 

3 Flamestorm cannons (so 12 infantry inside so 10 man + 2 leaders or 1 terminator leader) (one of the 3 are hull mounted)

2 twin-linked heavy flamers

Pintle mount 2 flamers and strap some frag assault launchers on it and we are good to go!

 

"So uh...lets see, 3D6 of these, 4D6 of these and 2D6 of these!"

"How many shots yea?"

"How many hits actually"

[Frater Cornelius]

That would be a nightmare to deal with in overwatch :D