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Blood Angels Codex brief review


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Now that preorders are going live I am allowed to write this.

 

I hate to admit this, but I've had the Codex for a week now.  Sadly only had time to play 1 game so far with it.  

 

I'll start with a few favorites new things

 

Astorath - his axe is back to being +2 strength!

 

With the bonus to wound making me want to maximize attacks, I think Sanguinor will be a really good choice this codex. Also the ability to leave combat and recharge getting the +1 to wound off again

 

Librarian Dreads flying are a thing again!

 

The reroll to wound provide by Lieutenants is great, though I think I am more interested in rerolls to hit.

 

Sanguinary Guard got cheaper.  base cost is now 20.  And with Angelus bolters cheaper, that makes the minimum cost per model 35 points.

 

Stratagems- 

 

my favorite I have not seen revealed by GW is Descent of Angels.  2Cp.  A unit with jump packs that deep struck that turn charges with 3d6. Not 3d6 drop the lowest.  3d6.

 

Artifacts:

 

My favorite is the banner for the 5+ FNP.  

 

 2 others I like, 

 

Angels Wing, jump pack can reroll charge distance and no overwatch by target.

Hammer of Baal. Thunder hammer but without the -1 to hit penalty.

 

 

Warlord trait:

Heroic bearing. Units within 6 inches automatically pass morale.

 

Psychic power:

Quickening

+d3 attacks for the psyker and +3 inches charge and advance.

 

 

Some things I found disappointing:

 

Dante is too expensive for what he does I think. I would rather take Astorath or sanguinor and save points.

 

DC should be better, the +1 to wound on the charge does not make up for not being able to use the 5++ for the banner and that Vanguard are cheaper and can get more attacks with 2 chainswords per model.

 

Baal predators are actually slightly more expensive (the base cost got cheaper but the Twin linked assault cannon got more expensive)

 

Don't bother playing a Successor chapter.  the only reason to is if you want to use Seth.

 

I will try to answer questions when I can.  And will probably add more information as I think of it.


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Stratagems- 

 

my favorite I have not seen revealed by GW is Descent of Angels.  2Cp.  A unit with jump packs that deep struck that turn charges with 3d6. Not 3d6 drop the lowest.  3d6.

 

 

Psychic power:

Quickening

+d3 attacks for the psyker and +3 inches charge and advance.

 

 

Oh my. This'll be fun.


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Psychic power:

Quickening

+d3 attacks for the psyker and +3 inches charge and advance.

Is the +3" charge and advance for the psyker only or can you cast it on a different unit? If on a different unit then that's huge!

 

Descent of Angels is definitely going to win us games tho! That's the one thing we needed apart for +1 to wound rolls to make our Jump Pack melee units viable imo. A bit sad that it won't work on Reivers tho.


Edited by sfPanzer, 01 December 2017 - 09:28 PM.

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So yeah, I'm really not rude it's basically just cultural differences that act against me here. Again, I apologize.

 

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sadly Psyker only on that power.


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Dude...who are you? Are you at Zombie Planet?  PM me please.  This is Rocco


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No, it's not a bolter caliber! 9x19, dedicated Blood Angels and Raven Guard aficionado.

 

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Are DC less prone to morale damage?



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I heard something about Sanguinary Guard getting their own aura as a unit, is that true?

Any changes to dreadnought Blood Talons that make them worthwhile?
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Are DC less prone to morale damage?

No.  DC are basically in the same position they were before.


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So our 3 iconic units; Sanguinary Guard, Baal Predators and Death Company are somewhere on the spectrum between meh and bleh.  Unbelievable.


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Quickening and Descent of Angels are building the hype back up to 11! :-D

Edit:

Quickening Psycker only. Hype back to 7 lol

Edited by Ishagu, 01 December 2017 - 09:31 PM.

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Descent of Angels definitely brings us back into the game. Jump Pack units being able to charge 3d6 after deep striking is huge!


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Disclaimer:

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So yeah, I'm really not rude it's basically just cultural differences that act against me here. Again, I apologize.

 

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I heard something about Sanguinary Guard getting their own aura as a unit, is that true?

Any changes to dreadnought Blood Talons that make them worthwhile?

Sanguinary Guard do not have an Aura other than possible deathmasks.

 

Blood Talons are a straight 3 damage now, reroll hits and wounds.  Strength +4, Ap-2.


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Sanguinary Guard with banner are now pretty amazing. T1 charge
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Thanks for posting.
Really disappointing to hear about BAAL preds and Dante. I had 3 waiting to be built ><. Can't see any reason using them over the FW Sicarans that just got a massive pricedrop.
Was also hoping DC would get... something.. Even if it was just a point or 2 cheaper. Still going to run plenty, they're just too cool not to.

Awesome news RE Sanguinary Guard and that stratagem/psychic power. Kinda makes me want to run a 10man unit.....

Pre-orders are up on the NZ GW store... Don't think I'm a fan of those dice, might stick with my custom Chessex ones.


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Death Company can be held back too? What's stopping them from doing the same thing following turn? You can have large jump units charging Turn 1 from reserve, then turn 2 from reserve. It's actually pretty awesome when Meph or a Libby Dread flies over to join the fight.

This is pretty significant

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Nothing.  I did that the one game I played.  DC dropped and charged turn 1, Sanguinar guard turn 2.


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Excellent. Leaves enough points over to build a solid firebase also. Thumbs up from me

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Descending Angels = Holy Primarch - YES!!

 

Lower points on Sanguinary Guard - great.

 

That's enough for now =)



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Any change to The Sanguinor at all? Looks like he'll be my goto.. Index rules weren't too bad though.



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I did not notice any changes to Sanguinor.  The named characters are pretty much unchanged.


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So on Descen of Angels, is that one unit only? Like if I have Lemmy with the DC, DC leave Lemmy behind?

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I think it is going to be really easy to run out of command points in this codex.

 

2 each time for descent of angels, 1 if you want 2 artifacts. They will go quick.  


So on Descen of Angels, is that one unit only? Like if I have Lemmy with the DC, DC leave Lemmy behind?

Sadly, yes.


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Are Terminator and Sanguiniary Ancients unchanged as well? Specifically their banners.



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What is the successor relic?

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Sanguinary ancient no longer makes units immune to morale, have to take the warlord trait for that.  Instead +1 leadership.

 

Terminator ancient seems unchanged.


What is the successor relic?

Archangels shard.

 

Power sword that against monsters gets d3 damage, against daemon monsters d6.


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