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Templars Escalation - 500 pts

Black Templars Escalation

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I'm looking at an escalation league in town; and the month of December is 500 pts. Lists can change each level as long as they are Battle-forged and keep the same warlord.

 

Obviously this is small, but the battalion CPs should help. I haven't played a game this small this edition.

 

I wonder if I should forgo the High Marshal for a Chaplain this game and make the EC my warlord, or would that be too high of a risk for points each match?

 
++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [29 PL, 498pts] ++
 
+ HQ +
 
High Marshal Helbrecht [9 PL, 170pts] Warlord
 
The Emperor's Champion [4 PL, 75pts]
 
+ Troops +
 
Crusader Squad [5 PL, 93pts]
. 3x Initiate
. Initiate w/Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Sword Brother: Chainsword, Combi-plasma
 
Crusader Squad [5 PL, 85pts]
. 3x Initiate w/Chainsword
. Initiate w/Special Weapon: Flamer
. Sword Brother: Chainsword, Combi-flamer
 
Scout Squad [6 PL, 75pts]
. Scout Sergeant: Chainsword, Sniper rifle
. 4x Scout w/Sniper Rifle: 4x Sniper rifle

Edited by Othniel's Blade, 04 December 2017 - 10:36 PM.

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Rather than a chaplain, maybe a captain and grab a razorback/rhino to get the ec and presumably the flamers to their target. If you get to the enemy hq the rerolls will be wasted on the ec. Your also lacking anything to deal with any light vehicles your opponent might bring. If you can find the points somewhere maybe take a lasgun on the plasma squad and/or a rocket launcher on the scouts. HKM, if you take a vehicle, is a steal at 6pts in low point games as you’re only likely to get one turn of effective shooting anyway.

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I'd just run a Marshall-Castallen combo. And not run the Emperor's Champion. That give you 100 points to play with to bulk of your Crusader Squads and takes Ceno for Cheap Backfield objective. And secondly Crusader Squads aren't tactical you can go heavy/special/special. Or more specifically take in this circumstance Pow/Pow/Special (and 2nd Special) with the low points.

Also Intercessors over Scouts. Its 9 points more, but the squad is far more durable and can help you fight in close.

Basic list
HQ 130-150ish
Marshall (Captain)(with Helm)
Castallen (Liutanent)

Elites 6
Cenos

Troops
2 Crusader Squads. Pow/Pow/Special. 10-12 Men. The bodies will be a life saver. You have 130 Points per a squad. You could do something like 6-4. Pow/PowSword/StormBolter/Flamer.
1 Intercessor Squad. PowSword

Or two like Intercessor Squads and one Crusader Squad.

Ultimately don't take Helbrect if nothing else. Go Marshall-Champion or Castallen. Helbrect is not good enough at these point values and you'd rather having the flexibility of two characters and 100 extra points.
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Thanks guys. The problem is that I need to keep the same warlord throughout; and I got shiny syndrome with Helbrecht arriving next week. Unfortunately I have no Primaris or Cenos (yet). January is 1k, Feb 1.5k, Mar 2k.

 

How about the fol:
 

 494 pts
+HQ +
 
Chaplain [6 PL, 90pts]: Bolt pistol, Jump Pack, The Crusader's Helm
 
Primaris Lieutenants [5 PL, 75pts]
. Primaris Lieutenant: Master-crafted stalker bolt rifle
 
+ Troops +
 
Crusader Squad [5 PL, 97pts]
. 2x Initiate
. Initiate w/Heavy Weapon: Power sword
. Initiate w/Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Sword Brother: Chainsword, Combi-plasma
 
Crusader Squad [5 PL, 106pts]
. 2x Initiate
. Initiate w/Heavy Weapon: Power axe
. Initiate w/Special Weapon: Meltagun
. Sword Brother: Chainsword, Combi-melta
 
Crusader Squad [8 PL, 126pts]: 4x Neophyte w/Combat Knife
. 2x Initiate w/Chainsword
. Initiate w/Heavy Weapon: Power sword
. Initiate w/Special Weapon: Flamer
. Sword Brother: Bolt pistol, Chainsword, Power sword

Or,
 
496 pts
+HQ +
 
Chaplain [5 PL, 72pts]: Bolt pistol, The Crusader's Helm
 
Lieutenants [4 PL, 67pts]
. Lieutenant: Master-crafted boltgun, Power sword
 
+ Troops +
 
Crusader Squad [5 PL, 97pts]
. 2x Initiate
. Initiate w/Heavy Weapon: Power sword
. Initiate w/Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Sword Brother: Chainsword, Combi-plasma
 
Crusader Squad [5 PL, 106pts]
. 2x Initiate
. Initiate w/Heavy Weapon: Power axe
. Initiate w/Special Weapon: Meltagun
. Sword Brother: Chainsword, Combi-melta
 
Crusader Squad [5 PL, 82pts]
. 2x Initiate w/Chainsword
. Initiate w/Heavy Weapon: Power sword
. Initiate w/Special Weapon: Flamer
. Sword Brother: Bolt pistol, Power sword
 
+ Dedicated Transport +
 
Rhino [4 PL, 72pts]: Storm bolter

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Of those two the second will probably get more mileage. A metal box is always handy if you go second and if nothing else it can charge and tie up a unit without dying for it.

 

Also both lists have a few extra points. At 2 points each stormbolters can be taken by any of your characters or sword brothers. Tad better than bolt pistols.



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I’d prefer body count and throwing 3 Neophytes into each melta squad, using spare points to give Storm Bolter on Castallen (Dropping Master Bolt) and upgrade Plasma to Meltagun. Instead of using the Rhino.

The list is likely the better one. But with the second list. Drop Master Bolter and downgrade that Ax to Sword and replace SB Chain with PowSwords.

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Other thing to think about is not running any combi-weapons. And just go for more raw bodies.
Like
HQ-137
Chaplain w/Helm&StormBolter
Castallen w/Teeth&Master

Troops- 363
3x Crusader Squad. 363 (121)-8 Man
-1x Init w/PlasGun, SB w/StormBolt&PowSword
-3x Neo w/BP&Knife, 2x Init w/BP&Chain
-1x Int w/PowSword&BP

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I’d replace Storm Bolters with Cenos once you get them. And once you get a squad of Intercessors. Drop a Crusader Squad, for it. Use those 31 extra points to change Plasma > Meltagun. Then get one more Neophyte in each Squad. Drop Master Bolter and give the two remaining Crusader Squads back their Storm Bolters.
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