Squirrely Wrath Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Gents, So my Hellhammer (older variant from FW) doesn’t have the additional plates behind the sponsons and brings the overall width of my Hellhammer, with sponsons, to 6&15/16”. Can he ambush sideways or is this just going to be a nightmare dealing with opponents continuously picking at it? How should I approach my opponents to reduce grumbles and make the game enjoyable for all? -Squirrely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tirak Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 "Ambush rule says I can set up wholly within 7in of a board edge. I'm within 7in, get over it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchverr Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Agreed with Tirak, your model is a legal GW model, it is OOP but it is still legal AFAIK as they have not said you cant use OOP models, heck if you have the original land raiders you can still use those even though they are significantly smaller then a currently sold raider i believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardsman Bob Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 How should I approach my opponents to reduce grumbles and make the game enjoyable for all?That depends. How friendly are the matches? Are your oppoments WAAC? I’ve tailored my lists down in the name of fun. But if you are facing a competitive scene then the odds are you can’t meaningfully help them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchverr Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Yup, you can always be nice and let them know the old model can fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrely Wrath Posted December 10, 2017 Author Share Posted December 10, 2017 The change to the new mode adds about 1/8” to it. I am new to my gaming league, but the store owner encouraged me to embrace it so that players knew what was out there in the ITC/GT world. Otherwise, I’ve tried to keep it somewhat friendly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momerathe Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 I, personally, wouldn't do it. I'm not saying it wrong, per se, but it's uncomfortably close to "modelling for advantage" to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tirak Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 It's not modeling for advantage, it's the older version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Withershadow Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 It could be. If someone goes out of their way to buy an older kit with this in mind, that would be clear modeling for advantage. In this case, since the OP already has the model, it’s more of a grey area. I would ask tournament organizers and avoid doing that in friendly games in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 I have to ask why you would want to though? I mean, moving it closer up the field doesn't give it many big advantages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyr13 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 It could be. If someone goes out of their way to buy an older kit with this in mind, that would be clear modeling for advantage. In this case, since the OP already has the model, it’s more of a grey area. I would ask tournament organizers and avoid doing that in friendly games in general. I think the opposite should apply. It should be fine in friendly games (if the list isnt too waacy, ofc), while tournaments would be a bit more problematic, imo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tirak Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 I am of the opinion that since it's an official product, including it is fine. If that means tourney players hunt down old versions, so be it. The price for these models is such that sunsetting them would be more problematic than fielding them. You can still field old style terminators in a lot of tourneys, this is no different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theradrussian Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 It's seeing this kind of stuff that makes me feel more strongly that this game is in a saaaaad place competitively :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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