bigmic66 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Hey all, Pre codex I saw taurox primes in army lists everywhere. Have they been replaced by double shooting, obsec russes? Is anyone using them still? As empty gunboats? With scions only lists or in general lists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micahwc Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I don't see the point as scions can deep strike for free, and russes are better gun trucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lash144 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Good that you started a thread, because yesterday someone had the idea in another thread that maybe Scions are the new go to for mechanised guard. To cite myself: If the -1 to hit thing keeps going, we may just see the rise of FRFSRF mechanized Scion squads :DActually the more I think about it the more I love it :D compare just the Taurox Prime versus the Gryphonne Pattern Chimera, for +17pts you get: - 20 S4 and 8 S4 -1 shots (also hitting on 3s if not moved) vs - 9 S5 -1 shots I know which one I like more :p Edit: that's not even factoring in possible extra shots from the stormtrooper doctrine. But your Scion Squad is more then two times more expensive... I have to run some numbers and compare those to guardsman. So maybe that's the way to go, I'll have to test it. @micahwc Well there are several reasons that you can't or just don't want to deepstrike: - you can't deepstrike more then half of your forces - no deepstrike in FRFSRF or melta range - maybe you just don't want to, because you are playing against a smart opponent with lots of chaff, so he can deny you dropping in into good positions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tirak Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Taurox Primes were always just empty gunboats, a way to bring their Gatling cannon on the field. Now, with the Grinding Advance rule to Russes and their increase in price, they are less than useful. Transports in general are extremely underwhelming with the change to when Embark/Disembark occurs, and the ability to hold in deepstrike reserve trumps being inside a tin box. Additionally, the Taurox looks like crap, even with wheel mods or a good paintjob, the overall model looks absolutely horrible. micahwc 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysere Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 The reason to take Taurox Primes is you want gatlings and volley guns on a fast moving vehicle but don't want to give up your Storm trooper Doctrine. For pure guard it's less useful now but for Scion detachments it still has a place. Also helps with getting FRFSRF teams into a good position before opening up. I long since gave up on the missile/autocannon combo since it consistently does very little for me. walter h 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardsman Bob Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 <snip> With scions only lists or in general lists? That was always my take on it. Then again I have about twenty of the 20th century Guard vehicle kits so there wasn’t any pressing need for purchasing and getting up to five Taurox Primes ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmic66 Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 Yeah I figured the Russ buffs have more or less killed of the taurox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kontakt Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Scion only lists are dead, competitively. Casualties of the war on Imperial soup, along with commissars and conscripts. I expect this heavy handed approach to be rescinded in next year's chapter approved, but that is a full year away... plenty of time to paint, at least. Malakithe 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmic66 Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 Yeah or pick them up cheap on bss lol. Scions OK in Max squads with hellguns/hotshot volley guns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Scion only lists are dead, competitively. Casualties of the war on Imperial soup, along with commissars and conscripts. I expect this heavy handed approach to be rescinded in next year's chapter approved, but that is a full year away... plenty of time to paint, at least. March actually. GW said the new FAQ schedule will be to release a 'clarification' FAW 2 weeks after release then be on rotation of 'balance' FAQs starting with March, then again in September Kontakt 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devloveslasguns Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Yeah or pick them up cheap on bss lol. Scions OK in Max squads with hellguns/hotshot volley guns? BSS? I'm guessing you don't mean The British Sundial Society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmic66 Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 Buy swap sell m8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegir_Einarsson Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 I thought about some good transport for my inquisition. Is taurox prime valid option? I thought about inquisitor, 2-3 acolytes And Maby small squad of scions? Is This good idea or there is better transport option for inquisition, If not What is optimal loadout for taurox prime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mertbl Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Inquisitor and 3 bullgryn clogged into a normal taurox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegir_Einarsson Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 But. Bulgryns can't bodyguard inquisitor, or I'm wrong at This point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mertbl Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 No, but they can get in the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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