What's your favorite piece of lore that's often forgotten?

[Lord_Caerolion]

I thought it was the opposite with the Kroot/Ork relationship with tech? They originally were backwards savages, but then Orks invaded, and the Kroot ate the Orks, giving them the instinctive tech knowledge?

[Battybattybats]

That the Spawn of Cryptus wasn't killed in the events of Deathstorm.

 

Pretty recent bit of lore to be forgot by the time the Genestealer Cult Codex came out.

[Bellarius]

The fact that the Tau Empire (or T'au Empire now) originally had no problems with religions, to the point where Gue'vesa followed a variation of the Imperial Faith with its xenophobic elements removed. Also that the Empire was less concerned with erasing a species' culture over simply having the follow the Greater Good, and that the Aun Caste originally had more depth to them than recent "Ethereals are evil! Ethereals are evil! 1984! 1984! 1984! 1984! 1984!" stories would suggest.

[Interrogator-Chaplain Ezra]

The fact that the Tau Empire (or T'au Empire now) originally had no problems with religions, to the point where Gue'vesa followed a variation of the Imperial Faith with its xenophobic elements removed. Also that the Empire was less concerned with erasing a species' culture over simply having the follow the Greater Good, and that the Aun Caste originally had more depth to them than recent "Ethereals are evil! Ethereals are evil! 1984! 1984! 1984! 1984! 1984!" stories would suggest.

Tau using mass sterilization and death camps is hardly recent fluff.

 

EDIT: Come to think of it, even the first Codex had some hint that the Ethereal infuence on other Tau was more than mere discipline or adoration.

[Bellarius]

 

The fact that the Tau Empire (or T'au Empire now) originally had no problems with religions, to the point where Gue'vesa followed a variation of the Imperial Faith with its xenophobic elements removed. Also that the Empire was less concerned with erasing a species' culture over simply having the follow the Greater Good, and that the Aun Caste originally had more depth to them than recent "Ethereals are evil! Ethereals are evil! 1984! 1984! 1984! 1984! 1984!" stories would suggest.

Tau using mass sterilization and death camps is hardly recent fluff.

 

 

No arguments there, they were hardly ever nice from their second codex onward. Even the first was questionable given their policy of "join us willingly or at gunpoint". That said, there was a bit more depth to them than the last few codices suggested, where they seem to have become some straw man faction who repeat's the Emperor's every mistake because the writers wanted them to. I simply wish that they had used the older depiction as growing inwardly corrupt or compromising too many times to deal with the growing threats of the galaxy. Not the "MWAHAHAHAHA! WE HAVE BEEN MANIPULATING YOU ALL ALONG!!!" cartoon characters they have been devolving into.

 

To cite other points, I miss the fact that they originally did do more than completely suppress knowledge of the Warp and actually made use of telepathic races when needed. Their ships could travel by it in short jumps, limiting their advances, and when they did research the subject at Medusa V they believed that mimicking humanity's was infeasible due to the risks involved. That and the fact that, in the few books they did run into Chaos, they saw it as a physical manifestation of the Mont'au.

 

EDIT: Also, yes, that was a case where it was suggested that the Eldar had a hand in their creation, and it was something further substantiated by Xenology. The problem is that the depiction they have been going for of late leaves no room for the more positive depictions of those characters seen and most depictions which favour the evil version have been cartoonishly one dimensional. Aun'va, for example, ends up throwing a temper tantrum all throughout the Mont'ka book purely because Farsight shows up.

[Lord_Caerolion]

The problem seems to be that Phil Kelly appears to be a massive fan of Farsight, so he's on the anti-Ethereal side of things. His personal views really seem to be affecting how the Tau are written.

[Panzer]

Also that Kelly writes really bad T'au stories in every regard, not just about Ethereals.

[Walter Payton]

Rudyard Kipling's "The White Man's Burden" perfectly encapsulates the Tau mindset:

 

 

 

Take up the Blue Man's burden,  

 

And reap his old reward,  

 

The blame of those ye better,  

 

The hate of those ye guard,  

 

The cry of hosts ye humour,  

 

Ah! Slowly! towards the light,  

 

"Why brought ye us from bondage, our loved Old Terran night?"

[Major_Gilbear]

Okay folks, from the discussion of how Phil Kelly writes about Tau, to poetry that has nothing to do with 40k; this topic has now strayed rather far from the premise of remembering snippets of forgotton lore.

Therefore, I think we're done here.