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Considering Custodes - two questions


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I'm a long time wargamer and a BT/DG player for about 10 years and no I'm not a grumpy old man complaining about 2ed or rogue trader.  But, I have put my BT on the back burner until GW works out their plans on Primaris marines as I find it is be a poor gamble investing in marines right now.  

 

With my frustration at GW I wanted to get another army that would fall outside the Primaris issues.  Custodes seem interesting as it would be an elite army being a small model count but most likely about the same monetary cost but I have two concerns.

 

First is there a better option for the Ven Dread then the really bad plain one GW makes.  Can the FW Custode dread be converted with a ranged weapon?

 

Second looking at the stats via the index it looks like Custodes would have a very hard time on the table top.  Ignoring stuff that is not released the index unit seems to be either two light on resilience and clearly not able to provide much ranged fire support.  As someone that has not played them and only going on my years of wargaming they look like they could be very challenging.  How are they doing on the table top?

 

PS: I do not like playing with jerk army lists but I also enjoy having good games.  My favorite WFB army was Tomb Kings and I like Death Guard when they were very challenging back in 3.5.  

 

The Contemptor Dread GW makes is awful, just looks plain awful ! I have 2 x FW Contemptor Dreads and you can convert it. I'm waiting on the Codex before I convert the other one I have. 

 

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The army is tough as nails, especially running them with Swords and Boards like I do; You get a T5,  +4 Inv Save and a +2 save with 3 Wounds. I would expect the Termies and other new infantry to be even tougher. 

 

You are correct though, right now, other then the Contmptor Dread with Kheres Assualt / Multi-Melta and the Land Raider, we don't have much else to shoot with. Until we get the Codex, we don't have enough info for a solid understanding of how the full Custodes list will play. A lot more options will open soon, and I am really excited ! 

 

 

Hey Constantine,

 

If you have a moment can you give me a little bit of detail on your conversion and is it magnetized to still put the shield on it?  I'm guessing I have about 2 to 3 weeks before I get my models in from FW.



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I'm a long time wargamer and a BT/DG player for about 10 years and no I'm not a grumpy old man complaining about 2ed or rogue trader.  But, I have put my BT on the back burner until GW works out their plans on Primaris marines as I find it is be a poor gamble investing in marines right now.  

 

With my frustration at GW I wanted to get another army that would fall outside the Primaris issues.  Custodes seem interesting as it would be an elite army being a small model count but most likely about the same monetary cost but I have two concerns.

 

First is there a better option for the Ven Dread then the really bad plain one GW makes.  Can the FW Custode dread be converted with a ranged weapon?

 

Second looking at the stats via the index it looks like Custodes would have a very hard time on the table top.  Ignoring stuff that is not released the index unit seems to be either two light on resilience and clearly not able to provide much ranged fire support.  As someone that has not played them and only going on my years of wargaming they look like they could be very challenging.  How are they doing on the table top?

 

PS: I do not like playing with jerk army lists but I also enjoy having good games.  My favorite WFB army was Tomb Kings and I like Death Guard when they were very challenging back in 3.5.  

 

The Contemptor Dread GW makes is awful, just looks plain awful ! I have 2 x FW Contemptor Dreads and you can convert it. I'm waiting on the Codex before I convert the other one I have. 

 

36952857261_ca850c4bb4_z.jpg

 

The army is tough as nails, especially running them with Swords and Boards like I do; You get a T5,  +4 Inv Save and a +2 save with 3 Wounds. I would expect the Termies and other new infantry to be even tougher. 

 

You are correct though, right now, other then the Contmptor Dread with Kheres Assualt / Multi-Melta and the Land Raider, we don't have much else to shoot with. Until we get the Codex, we don't have enough info for a solid understanding of how the full Custodes list will play. A lot more options will open soon, and I am really excited ! 

 

 

Hey Constantine,

 

If you have a moment can you give me a little bit of detail on your conversion and is it magnetized to still put the shield on it?  I'm guessing I have about 2 to 3 weeks before I get my models in from FW.

 

 

This Dread is not magnetized. I didn't have any magnets and was really wanted to complete the model. The next Dread waiting to be assembled I will magnetize, but am waiting to see the Codex and the full list of possible weapons fits.....I hope there are more. 


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On TDA, they will also most likely have built in deep strike, which is a bonus from TDA as well. So more fire power, extra wound and most likely Deep Strike built in.

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We don't know anything about Custodes at this moment in time so we shouldn't be discussing what the army can and can't do.
It's possible that a month from now we have a force where the infantry can deepstike, deal with hordes easily, and have access to a few FW Tank units that can dispatch tougher targets.

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A quick question, as I don't have my index on hand at the moment, can the vexilla bearer take a storm shield or is he limited to just the little knife

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Yes he can. Best way to equip him

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Woo. Good to know thanks, my buddy just gave me his whole unused set from bop, in exchange for some conversions. Wanted to be sure before I built him up




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