Tamika Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) Hi guys, Trying to finish my list, open to any suggestions. 1260 points so far out of 2000. Air Wing Detachment Hell Blade Hell Blade Hell Blade Vanguard Detachment Renegade Commander Renegade Marauder Squad -2x Grenade Launchers Renegade Marauder Squad -2x Grenade Launchers Renegade Marauder Squad -2x Grenade Launchers Renegade Marauder Squad -2x Grenade Launchers Renegade Marauder Squad -2x Grenade Launchers Renegade Marauder Squad -2x Grenade Launchers Renegade Heavy Weapons Squad -5x Mortar Teams Renegade Heavy Weapons Squad -5x Mortar Teams Arvus Lighter -2x Hell Strike Missiles Arvus Lighter -2x Hell Strike Missiles Arvus Lighter -2x Hell Strike Missiles The commander hides behind the Mortar Teams somewhere safe or rides along with the Marauders. I don't want any Leman Russ or Chimera, I don't like the kits. I will take anything from Chaos Space Marines so long as it is not too daemonic. I am open to any superheavy. I have room for only one more detachment. I want army to be elite focus so no cultists, mutants etc but open to more marauders. Obviously I have alot of flyers already so not sure if any more is a good idea? Edited January 19, 2018 by Tamika Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slan Drakkos Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 You seem to be leaning pretty heavily towards ranged combat. I'd suggest taking some units that can shore up your overall weak close combat composition. If you want to stay within the confines of the RaH, I'd suggest Ogryn. If not, I highly suggest taking some Khorne berzerkers. Just my two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamika Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 Thanks Slan I'd prefer berserkers over Ogryn... how would I put them in my army? Would a Patrol Detachment grant me World Eaters & Chaos Marines shenanigans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slan Drakkos Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 (edited) Let's get into some serious mathhammer. If you have 1260/2000 points, then that leave exactly 740 points for the rest of your army. A patrol detachment is good, but it honestly isn't enough to cover up the admittedly lacking CQC unit composition. IMO, you should take a bare minimum brigade detachment. Three squads of five (be sure to take chainaxes instead of chainswords) with Khârn and a chaos Lord is needed to shore up your defenses. Three squads of five with each berzerker (plus their chainaxe) costing 17 point per model comes out to 255. Khârn costs 160, so with the berserkers, that's 415. Finally, a bare bones lord costs 94 points which makes this detachment come out to 509 points. Lastly, if you choose for Khârn or the chaos lord to be you warlord, then you would get access to some world eaters shenanigans. Edited January 20, 2018 by Slan Drakkos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Ipsa Loquitur Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Spend the rest on Rhinos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamika Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share Posted January 21, 2018 Thanks guys for your advice... I think I could add some really cool converted berserkers that represent their elite troops. Not so keen on Rhinos when I already have space taxis... Would three defilers be a really bad idea then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goreshed Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Defilers aren't horrible in this edition, specially with the fact that they get an invuln save, regen a wound each turn and can move and fire the battle cannon along with everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stross Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Arvus Lighter -2x Hell Strike Missiles Arvus Lighter -2x Hell Strike Missiles Arvus Lighter -2x Hell Strike Missiles Why are you not taking Valkirie? Renegade Marauder Squad -2x Grenade Launchers Renegade Marauder Squad -2x Grenade Launchers Renegade Marauder Squad -2x Grenade Launchers Renegade Marauder Squad -2x Grenade Launchers Renegade Marauder Squad -2x Grenade Launchers Renegade Marauder Squad -2x Grenade Launchers If you are going to put them right on the enemy, meltas or plasmas will be much better. Because you probably not going to have a second turn for these guys, even with -1 to hit and +2 to save in cover ir Wing Detachment Hell Blade Hell Blade Hell Blade Take another renegade commander and you will receave another command point I am open to any superheavy. Baneblade or Macharius Vulcan are your best choices. I will analize your army later and will tell what do I think how it will handle against different races. Tamika 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamika Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 I haven't attached the special weapons yet so am open to changing to melta... but I wanted them as versatile as possible and also not costly when they die. I alredy have three defilers, but the paint hasn't touched them yet and so depending on whether they fit in this list or not whether they are Thousand Sons or Dark Mechanicus colour scheme :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamika Posted January 25, 2018 Author Share Posted January 25, 2018 Why are you not taking Valkirie? 100% aesthetic choice Take another renegade commander and you will receave another command point Another vanguard wastes 25 points on commander and uses up my third and final detachment for only an extra command point. Baneblade or Macharius Vulcan are your best choices. I will analize your army later and will tell what do I think how it will handle against different races. Totally like the baneblade but not totally sure on it, prefer lots of smaller models.. but not horde. Akrim 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akrim Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Tamika what specialist trait are you planning to use on the Maurauders? I would second mixing up the spec wpns a bit too. Also are you loading lascannons on the Hellblades? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamika Posted January 27, 2018 Author Share Posted January 27, 2018 I am taking a specialist trait depending on who I am fighting, but probably most of the time the stalkers since the -1 to hit and +1 to cover works at close range also (until its faq'd which I don't expect). Hell Blades with their Helstorm Autocannons, though they aren't attached yet... I'm painting subassembly right now. I cant see much reason to take the lascannons when disciple squads are cheaper and more accurate lascannon shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goreshed Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 For superheavy, if you are going to include it I would take the Baneblade over the mach. If only because the Baneblade has a wider field of weapons to toss on it and isn't so specialized to mow down infantry/light tanks. Tamika 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamika Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 Yeah I would prefer Baneblade over Macharius. I just realised twin Hell Strike missiles went up from 40 to 60 points upgrade on the Arvus, is this correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akrim Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Yeah I would prefer Baneblade over Macharius. I just realised twin Hell Strike missiles went up from 40 to 60 points upgrade on the Arvus, is this correct? Im not seeing it in the FAQ (?). Battlescribe still quotes 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radionausea Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 In chapter approved hellstrike missiles are 30 each so yes it's 60. And Battlescribe has it as 60 so you might need to update your files Tamika 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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