Panzer Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 And suddenly Magnus buffs actual TSons astartes units just by reducing the risk they explode. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 And suddenly Magnus buffs actual TSons astartes units just by reducing the risk they explode. Exactly. I was saying previously I stopped using the non-character Psykers in my main squads because too many time I had a guy's head blow off and took out too many squad members... sometimes beyond that. It was terrible. I'm enjoying this news quite a bit. The idea of extra powers, and while expensive, Magnus seems reasonable. Man I've got quite the conundrum.... I have quite a large collection of deathguard and my Thousand sons are mostly painted.. It's going to be quite the choice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaeinox Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I really want to finish my remaining 10 tzaangors. Loved hearing about Ahriman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyD4rkPassenger Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 All great stuff! Super excited to play them for the Chaos faction in our store's planetary empires campaign. Webway assault is going to free up so many points from rhinos in my list now. I can't wait to use Ahriman, my favorite 40k character is a tank now with the 3++! My one qualm is with that flesh change strategem, so are we under the impression Ahriman dusted everyone for nothing now? I'm not up to date on the latest fluff, but if I remember the whole point was to prevent spawndom in the legion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scammel Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 All great stuff! Super excited to play them for the Chaos faction in our store's planetary empires campaign. Webway assault is going to free up so many points from rhinos in my list now. I can't wait to use Ahriman, my favorite 40k character is a tank now with the 3++! My one qualm is with that flesh change strategem, so are we under the impression Ahriman dusted everyone for nothing now? I'm not up to date on the latest fluff, but if I remember the whole point was to prevent spawndom in the legion. Sorcerers are still perfectly mutable - it's only the dust bunnies who are, er, immune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaeinox Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 My one qualm is with that flesh change strategem, so are we under the impression Ahriman dusted everyone for nothing now? I'm not up to date on the latest fluff, but if I remember the whole point was to prevent spawndom in the legion. It's not too much of a stretch to go with that considering how Magnus tried twice to bargain against the flesh change anyways, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Well the Stratagem itself even tells us that the Sorcerer simply embraced the mutations. Some mutations are good, some are bad. As always with the gifts of the gods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyD4rkPassenger Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Sorcerers are still perfectly mutable - it's only the dust bunnies who are, er, immune. It's not too much of a stretch to go with that considering how Magnus tried twice to bargain against the flesh change anyways, right? Oh mutations are still rampant, its Tzeentch after all. I just remember the Rubric affecting everyone, regulars got dusty and all the sorcerers were enhanced psychically due to it, while protecting everyone. You do bring a solid point up Archaeinox, Tzeentch is fickle. Saving Ahriman from Magnus' wrath at the Rubric while later nullifying it is quite 40K. I probably won't use the strat in the end. I shall derail the thread no more. I'll agree with everyone that Magnus aura change is huge, I might be tempted to buy him now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scammel Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 My CP will ONLY be spent on this strat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Every game Ahriman turns into a spawn will be the highlight of the evening for me. Now I really need to push my mate to build his TSons army. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimskar Bloodfart Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I believe the Daemon Prince's reroll aura only affects daemons now too, which makes them less attractive. Their access to the Daemon spells and their melee prowess are their only saving grace. That doesn't make up for the completely terrible model for me. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skerr Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Holy hell, i get the flu for a couple days and look what happens. Everything is looking good. I was hoping we might use the deamon dsicipline to buff out SOTs but i think the effects only effwct demons. Even so the expanded selection is great. They did say magnus was a bit more mind bullety in the video. Digging that aura! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaeinox Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I just asked a death guard buddy and he says his book's demon prince just affects death guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreaterChickenofTzeentch Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 How much do you guys love me? Magnus the Red: Primarch of the TS (re-roll 1s to hit aura, re-roll 1s for Psychic Tests aura) Ahriman: +1 Invul, so 3++ now (via fixed warlord trait) Re-roll 1s to hit for TS aura Where'd this one come from? Facebook? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin777 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Maybe exalted sorcerers will be more like the Swiss Army knives that chaos lords are now. One can hope... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 I’m always up for some fluffy strategems. I am remind3d of back in 7 th when Ahriman had his ring of Sorcs and Magnus had his. Magnus’ Sorcs were always depicted as a little more mutated. And after dabbling for a while in the dark arts, who’s to say you wouldn’t welcome a third or fourth arm? I think Ahriman is the real win here though. Depending on his points cost, I’m looking very forward to using him with those auras. Is his Warlord trait known yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsernameTaken Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 ... Ahriman: +1 Invul, so 3++ now (via fixed warlord trait) Re-roll 1s to hit for TS aura Btw does this mean, assuming that the demon princes get +1 to invulns like DG ones got digustingly resilient, that we could make a 3++ demon prince casting two spells a turn? Looks pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 A bounty to anyone who can dish all the dirt dust on Rubrics and Scarab Occult! Or, if you don't like coconut maybe a wispa. Not the gold ones though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoomWolf Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 How much do you guys love me? Magnus the Red: Primarch of the TS (re-roll 1s to hit aura, re-roll 1s for Psychic Tests aura) Ahriman: +1 Invul, so 3++ now (via fixed warlord trait) Re-roll 1s to hit for TS aura Wat... Just...Wat... They were not kidding when they said magnus is going to be a bigger psyker powerhouse. Ahriman trait, honestly NOT a fan. you want to avoid getting shot at with him anyway. then again, fixed traits are always a downside-picking one is always better. Much better aura than his old one though. LET THE DAKKA COMMENCE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaeinox Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 How much do you guys love me? Magnus the Red: Primarch of the TS (re-roll 1s to hit aura, re-roll 1s for Psychic Tests aura) Ahriman: +1 Invul, so 3++ now (via fixed warlord trait) Re-roll 1s to hit for TS aura Where'd this one come from? Facebook? Me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arachnofiend Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 It's gonna be weird selecting a rando daemon prince as our warlord instead of Ahriman in order to get a better trait. :v Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaeinox Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I think Ahriman is the real win here though. Depending on his points cost, I’m looking very forward to using him with those auras. Is his Warlord trait known yet? Yeah, I said Ahriman's trait is fixed and +1 invul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skerr Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I will miss the deceptive warlord trait Ahriman once had though the overall fine tuning looks great! Yeah, super curious about discs and how they effect keywords and if they open up thr ability to use the tzeenth demon discipline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven1 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 They could no longer grant "DAEMON" keyword, unlike though. Either it will explicitly be open to just Magnus and Demon Princes or it will all lucky and require an FAQ who knows with GW. Edit 1: Faeit212 posted pre-order/price for next Saturday nothing unexpected codex and datacard price. Interesting that there isn't a re-release of the dice. http://natfka.blogspot.com/2018/01/this-weeks-pre-orders-list-and-prices.html?m=1 Edit 2: xxhikaru123 wrote: There are no more entries for Sorcerers for both RM & SOT, I assume that they are free. Soulreaper are 5 points cheaper. SO sorcerer only being 33 points is awesome. Not sure if the 5 points comes from the update in the CSM codex or that SRC is in fact only 10 points! That would be on point. Deepstriking 20 Rubrics of 10 SO Termis certainly looks better and better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonoftherubric21 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 They could no longer grant "DAEMON" keyword, unlike though. Either it will explicitly be open to just Magnus and Demon Princes or it will all lucky and require an FAQ who knows with GW. Edit 1: Faeit212 posted pre-order/price for next Saturday nothing unexpected codex and datacard price. Interesting that there isn't a re-release of the dice. http://natfka.blogspot.com/2018/01/this-weeks-pre-orders-list-and-prices.html?m=1 Edit 2: xxhikaru123 wrote: There are no more entries for Sorcerers for both RM & SOT, I assume that they are free. Soulreaper are 5 points cheaper. SO sorcerer only being 33 points is awesome. Not sure if the 5 points comes from the update in the CSM codex or that SRC is in fact only 10 points! That would be on point. Deepstriking 20 Rubrics of 10 SO Termis certainly looks better and better. Looks to be 44 points for a SOT Sorcerer including gear. looks like a squad came down in cost substantially if we assume 22 for missiles and 15 for soul reapers, came down 20 or so points. for a five man fully geared. Obviously gets alot cheaper if you drop weapons....not terrible. Getting closer to competitive pricing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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