wildweasel Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 I plan to get there, but I'm building a mixed unit type list for my initial 2,000 first (aritificer, Allarus, Jetbikes), then doing a splash of Militarum Tempestus. After that I'll be growing my jetbike ranks. yutang 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexonian Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 I plan to get there, but I'm building a mixed unit type list for my initial 2,000 first (aritificer, Allarus, Jetbikes), then doing a splash of Militarum Tempestus. After that I'll be growing my jetbike ranks. I'm doing basically the same but in reverse, first jetbikes then allurus, wardens etc and last some tempestus wildweasel 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Be careful. If something is too good it gets nerfed. Not exactly open to adjusting to rules changes lol MARK0SIAN 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildweasel Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 (edited) I do fully expect bikes to go up by 5-10 points with the next Chapter Approved. Which means the all-bike army can't field two Outrider Detachments at 2,000. I'm still gonna do all bikes cause METAL. Edited February 8, 2018 by wildweasel Guiltysparc 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexonian Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 I do fully expect bikes to go up by 5-10 points with the next Chapter Approved. Which means the all-bike army can't field two Outrider Detachments at 2,000. I'm still gonna do all bikes cause METAL. same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildweasel Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 As for how mine are doing: still getting painted (the two in the very back are done and being used for reference): balordazul, caladancid, Alexonian and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Oni_of_Hindsight Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Played 1k against Nurgle Daemons yesterday, Open war cards. deployment was the weird chevron (one player has a spearhead, the other has two corners on the other side. Mission was power level kill points.) 1 Shield Captain fought a 30 mob of plaguebearers single handed for 4 turns, the Allarus fought a GUO for 4 turns doing some major damage before being squashed. All in all aggression wins those battles, an objective grab would have hurt though (both of us, really) won 19 to 13 (he lost drones and nurglings, I lost my Allarus) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Just got blasted off the board last night. Faced a coalition of Nids and TSons. All over by turn 2. Just could not deal with the number of Mortal Wounds being spammed at me. Full Smites, Super Smites, Three disciplines of Powers, the :cuss OP broken FW Soulburner Contemptors, Biovores. Ugh. I don't think there's anything I can change to give me a chance versus an army like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Valten_ Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 (edited) Played 2k against a Mars Ad-Mech brigade last night. My list isn't 100% Custodes - it's: Battalion Detachment Shield-Captain on Bike, Relic Bike, Superior Creation Allarus Shield-Captain with Axe, Eagle's Eye Allarus Vexillus Magnifica 4 Allarus with Axes 3 x 3 Custodians 5 Bikes with Hurricane Bolters Supreme Command Detachment Greyfax Primaris Psyker Space Marine Librarian Culexus Assassin Granted, he had no psychic phase but I've always enjoyed playing in every phase of the game which is why that detachment is there. I got first turn and managed to charge in with all six bikes into 2 Dunecrawlers, which were prevented from overwatching from the Allarus. They died and it went downhill for my opponent from then on. The sheer amount of firepower the Custodes were able to take in unreal. He finally got my bike Captain down and was dismayed when I played 'Shoulder the Mantle' to move my warlord over. Also, 48 Hurricane Bolter shots on overwatch is nothing to be sniffed at - turn 2 he either died from overwatch or failed all of his charges, which allowed me to Swooping Dive with 4 bikes into his backline. He caused more damage in mortal wounds by deliberately exploding his vehicles than in any other way, and conceded at the bottom of turn 3. I'm looking forward to playing against some of the harder lists that are doing the rounds at my local GW to see just how far this force can be pushed. Edited February 9, 2018 by _Valten_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 One of my opponents almost left the game last night. After killing bobby G I used shoulder the Mantle to move Warlord to a SC in Allarus. He didn't like it (the fact I didn't have to use it on an AC Warlord...) and almost walked away... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainMarsh Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Has a 2k game against Tsons. Lost on objectives, we both had almost nothing left by the end. Very fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Did your opponent use the FW Hellforged Contemptors with dual Soulburners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Just got blasted off the board last night. Faced a coalition of Nids and TSons. All over by turn 2. Just could not deal with the number of Mortal Wounds being spammed at me. Full Smites, Super Smites, Three disciplines of Powers, the :cuss OP broken FW Soulburner Contemptors, Biovores. Ugh. I don't think there's anything I can change to give me a chance versus an army like this. Lol you seem to have a horrid time frequently :-/ Prot 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Well I am a GK player. ;) Ishagu 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainMarsh Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Did your opponent use the FW Hellforged Contemptors with dual Soulburners? No. Used just codex. A general rule of thumb at my FLGS is that you don't use FW models against armies that can't/don't have access to FW themselves. Plus he doesn't own any FW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion El Josh Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 What’s the match up like vs TSons? My main opponent likes to use them, generally bringing Magnus, Ahriman and plenty of other Mortal Wounds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Bring lots of denies. Or be prepared for a short game! Don't forget Death Hex as well, which removes the 4++ from an entire unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFinisher4Ever Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 At least we have our 6+++ against mortal wounds in the psychic phase. But that's not going to save you unless you have insanely hot dice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysere Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 One of my opponents almost left the game last night. After killing bobby G I used shoulder the Mantle to move Warlord to a SC in Allarus. He didn't like it (the fact I didn't have to use it on an AC Warlord...) and almost walked away... I'm surprised they had an issue with this considering there are so many ways to play the game now where slay the warlord doesn't even matter. Maybe once in a great while it'll help but most of my games lately it's not even worth a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dulahan Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 (edited) At least we have our 6+++ against mortal wounds in the psychic phase. But that's not going to save you unless you have insanely hot dice. Personally, I find 'only' 6+ to be so laughable as to be almost insulting. It's not a good chance. It means you ignore one of every 6 mortal wounds in the long run. That's not nearly enough to make a difference barring atypical lucky rolls. Especially against Psychic Armies like the Thousand Sons, or some 'nids. Edited February 9, 2018 by Dulahan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion El Josh Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 I plan on including a vanguard detachment with Celestine (I know she doesn’t add much in regards to anti psyker but she’s excellent in her own right), a culexus and 2 squads of SoS when I know I’m facing strong Psyker armies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanewatts Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 I got first turn and managed to charge in with all six bikes into 2 Dunecrawlers, which were prevented from overwatching from the Allarus. They died and it went downhill for my opponent from then on. You actually cheated your opponent here if you are talking about the Concussion Grenade strategem, it only works on enemy infantry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtse Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 I think culexus is decent to bring. If you are bringing a supreme command of biker captains (and if your not why not!) just slap him in there as long as you have another Custodes detachment. It’s not super but st least it’s something. Mortal wounds are the kryptonite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildweasel Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) I think culexus is decent to bring. If you are bringing a supreme command of biker captains (and if your not why not!) just slap him in there as long as you have another Custodes detachment. It’s not super but st least it’s something. Mortal wounds are the kryptonite Putting the Culexus in the Supreme Command Detachment means the Captains will just have a 5++. As for why the SC biker Detachment isn’t an auto-include: in a pure Custodes army that’s 480 points of HQ not filling Battalion requirements. In Soup armies they are more compelling - but still a very significant chunk of points that could impact what the rest of the list is trying to do. Edited February 10, 2018 by wildweasel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainMarsh Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Bring lots of denies. Or be prepared for a short game! Don't forget Death Hex as well, which removes the 4++ from an entire unit. Death Hex can be super annoying. Of course they still have their armor save which starts at a 2+ so they're still tough, but against TSONS, there can be vast issues with it. In my game against them I used all my CP on the strategem that allows us to deny within 12'' as if they were a Psyker. I stopped two Doombolts and two Death Hexes- I rolled exceptionally well. But honestly, I think Custodes pair up naturally with the Sisters of Silence. If they were slightly more viable against elite murderers then that would solve a ton of issues. I really the AC book had been a Talons book; can't wait to see what the SoS get someday. Least Devotee 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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