Ministorum Units in Adepta Sororitas Detachment?

[BurntheHeretic]

So with Chapter Approved, the Adepta Sororitas finally have access to unique (a measly two) stratagems (doctrines for the different orders are still missing unfortunately). I'm trying to build a combined Adeptus Ministorum and Astra Militarum force, with an elite core of SOB herding a force of guardsmen looking for redemption into battle.

 

In Astra Militarum regiments, Priests and Crusaders can be taken in Astra Militarum <<regiment>> Detachments, without these detachments losing out on regimental doctrines and stratagems, despite these units not being part of the regiment in question. 

 

In your opinion, would the same apply for a Adepta Sororitas detachment? I can, say, run a Adepta Sororitas <<order>> batallion, and include Adeptus Ministorum units that do not share the 'Adepta Sororitas Keyword' (say, a Penitent Engine or a Priest), and still be entitled to use the stratagems from Chapter Approved? Or do you run them in seperate detachments? Note that Chapter Approved speaks of 'Adepta Sororitas' detachments, not 'Adeptus Ministorum' detachments. 

 

 

 

[Eddie Orlock]

In your opinion, would the same apply for a Adepta Sororitas detachment?

In a formalised setting, absent specific permissions, I'd say no.

 

There's a blanket restriction in the FACTIONS side-bar on pg 240 of the rule book that ties into detachment formation. Pg 88 of chapter approved under the heading 'Abilities' strictly ties the corresponding abilities to a specific list of factions, and Ministorum isn't on that list. Thus to qualify, all elements had to have Sororita and even one stray priest disqualifies you. The guard book provides for specific exceptions to its faction requirement restrictions.

 

Solution, I guess, is to round up at least three PE's and have Jake* lead them as a separate Spearhead. At least on paper. Alternatively, Jake could show up with some lesser priests and some arcos and a PE or two could tag along in the optional slots of a Vanguard. You already noted all this though.

 

​*Read: Uriah Jacobus

[BurntheHeretic]

Thanks for the reply! 

 

 

I thought as much.. but whilst an Ecclesiarch as HQ (in the fluff I believe Jacobus is dead already) sounds fluffy, quite frankly its stats don't  justify its points cost to me. Anyway, I'll run a strict SOB detachment alongside my Guard detachment for now, keeping the priests with the Guard instead and taking an auxilliary detachment for the stray Ministorum unit that doesn't fit anywhere. 

 

It's unlikely to happen soon, but I keep hoping one day we have both an Imperial Agents codex and an Adepta Sororitas codex at our disposal, that sort these kind of things out, giving a bit more flexibility to the stray Ministorum and Inquisition units. The good old days of the Witchhunters codex... 

Edited February 2, 2018 by BurntheHeretic

[Eddie Orlock]

Well, if not Jake, I guess there's no actual faction bennies for Ministorum yet, so using <Imperium> to 'soup things up' as it were, you could waac things up with a custode on dawnstar as the spearhead leader without actually losing much?