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My escalation league experience


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Had my first league game tonight.

 

List can't change too dramatically from week to week so I made decisions based on how/what I can grow.

 

Week 1 was 500 points.

 

Space Wolves assemble!!

 

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++ Patrol Detachment (Imperium - Space Wolves) [32 PL, 499pts] ++

 

 

 

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+ HQ [6 PL, 85pts] +

               Wolf Guard Battle Leader: Jump Packs,  Frost sword -> Krackenbone Sword, Storm shield 

 

+ Fast Attack [2 PL, 30pts] +

               Cyberwolves 

               Cyberwolves 

 

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+ Troops [8 PL, 111pts] +

               Grey Hunters : 4x Chainsword

. Grey Hunter Pack Leader : Chainsword

. 3x Grey Hunter w/Bolt Pistol

Grey Hunter with Special Weapon: Bolt Pistol, Plasma gun

Wolf Guard Pack Leader: Combi-plasma, Storm shield 

 

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+ Heavy Support [16 PL, 273pts] +

               Long Fangs 

. Long Fang : Lascannon 

. Long Fang : Lascannon

. Long Fang : Boltgun

. Long Fang : Boltgun

. Long Fang Pack Leader: Boltgun and Bolt Pistol, Chainsword

. Wolf Guard Pack Leader: Bolt pistol, Storm shield (*missed photo day)

               Long Fangs 

. Long Fang: Plasma cannon 

. Long Fang: Plasma cannon 

. Long Fang: Plasma cannon 

. Long Fang: Boltgun

. Long Fang Pack Leader: Boltgun and Bolt Pistol, Chainsword

 

 

As one of 2 newbies in the league I was assigned to play the TO.  Special rule is when facing the TO your loss counts as a draw so no harm no foul.

 

 

 

 

Opponent Nurgle

had a huge unit of plague bearers

chaos spawn

some random psyker hiding in the middle of the horde 
 

Dawn of war deployment (I think...12" rectangle box deployment.  I need to improve here)

 

I rolled a 1 to start my WH40k career and lose deployment.

 

My army is very flexible with the cyber wolves letting me react.  I basically start with WGBL going into reserve then place the wolves.  Depending on what is down I locate a good spot for my LFs or decide to send them on the hunt.  I decided to only place the GH on the hunt and use the plasma fangs to lure him forward.  I was going to pop up in his rear and make him commit in 1 direction.  

 

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I made a major mistake here expecting him to come at me.  I deployed faaaar away to give me more time to fire.  Instead he shuffled forward onto the objectives (was able to cover 2 of them) and never moved again.  I SHOULD have simply put my guys in the building b/c the chaos spawn was unable to reach me to do anything there.  From there I should have just fired into the mob every turn with everything I had.

 

So my original battle plan was shot and I dropped here instead

 

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Decided I would fight over this objective and deal with the spawn.  WGBL was between lascannon fangs and GH to give aura.

 

I don't know chaos units well so I was asking lots of questions.  Basically he told me his list is a troll build and unstoppable with only 500 points.

 

My list was not designed for a massive horde let alone one with special rules not to get moved off the objectives.  The game went as you would expect.  

 

The plague mob has a passive -1 to hit and he used a spell to make it a further -2.  I needed 5s just to hit them.  Turn 1 I managed to kill 4 of his guys between the plasma cannons and bolters.  He rolled a 1 on morale and brought back 6 more.

 

Brutal unit to bring in a 500 point game.

 

I couldn't even kill the damn chaos spawn.  Turn 1 before it even moved it generated an additional 6 wounds.  That was the pattern all game long.

 

I made it a personal mission to kill the spawn and ignore the plague guys.  Turn after turn of my long fangs pouring it had no effect.  Game ended turn 5 and it had 4 wounds remaining.

 

Now...learning experience.  I should have just sat all my units in the buildings and poured fire into the plague guys.  Eventually I would knock them down.  I could have completely ignored the spawn since it can't climb buildings after me.

 

Also...now that I am home I looked up the rules on these sneaky chaos units.  I was totally cheated hahaha.  He was automatically rolling to generate wounds on his spawn every turn.  1 he got D6 6 he got D3 (thats not the rule I was able to find).

 

Also his plague bearers lose their passive aura if they drop below 17 models.  I asked if there were any restrictions on that benefit he said no they just have it.

 

It wasn't a total loss.  I was trying to earn points despite the total failure.  I stole a few points from his spawn using my GHs and objective secured before he ate them.  I then was able to get my WGBL across the table for linebreaker before game ended.

 

I need to learn scoring mechanics but he said I got 4 out of max 10 even with the loss.

 

So the lesson I take away most of all is (1) know your enemy and (2) if you don't know your enemy ask to see the rules...

 

All that being said I had a real fun time tonight.  I have wanted to play 40k and join a group since I was a kid in HS but time and $ never matched up.  I was able to bring along a friend as well.  The 2 of us will be matched up against one another next week and we are looking forward to it. 

 

In the meantime I need to keep assembling if I am going to keep pace with this weekly point increase.  


Edited by TiguriusX, 06 February 2018 - 07:23 AM.

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I am glad to read you had fun in your game!

 

Yes, the single most important part of the hobby is always, show me, or, to a friend of mine, chow me.

 

Always be ready to accept challenges and challenge any odd sounding rule; most often, no one willingly cheats, last I checked. The issue is that, when pressed for time, most often, no one wants to potentially waste time looking up rules, when they arguably should whenever any question comes up.

 

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Week 2

 

750 points against Blood Angels (my good friend who is also new.  I dragged him along with me)

 

My points primarily went to adding Bjorn and upgrading a thunder hammer on my WGBL (he lost his storm shield though)

 

These 2 moves would prove critical in the match to come.

 

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Sorry for the blur...I clearly need a new phone/camera

 

My 750 list

 

Patrol Detachment (Imperium - Space Wolves)
  • HQ
    • Bjorn the Fell-handed

      Selections: Assault cannon, Heavy flamer, Saga of the Warrior Born, Warlord

    • Wolf Guard Battle Leader

      Selections: Chainsword, Jump Packs, Thunder hammer

  • Troops
    • Grey Hunters

      Selections: 4x Chainsword

      • Grey Hunter Pack Leader

        Selections: Power fist

      • 3x Grey Hunter w/Bolt Pistol
      • Grey Hunter with Special Weapon

        Selections: Bolt Pistol, Plasma gun

      • Wolf Guard Pack Leader

        Selections: Combi-plasma, Storm shield

  • Fast Attack
    • Cyberwolves

      Selections: Cyberwolf

    • Cyberwolves

      Selections: Cyberwolf

  • Heavy Support
    • Long Fangs
      • Long Fang

        Selections: Lascannon

      • Long Fang

        Selections: Lascannon

      • Long Fang

        Selections: Boltgun

      • Long Fang

        Selections: Boltgun

      • Long Fang Pack Leader

        Selections: Boltgun and Bolt Pistol, Chainsword

      • Wolf Guard Pack Leader

        Selections: Bolt pistol, Storm shield

    • Long Fangs
      • Long Fang

        Selections: Plasma cannon

      • Long Fang

        Selections: Plasma cannon

      • Long Fang

        Selections: Plasma cannon

      • Long Fang

        Selections: Boltgun

      • Long Fang Pack Leader

        Selections: Boltgun and Bolt Pistol, Chainsword

 

League rule...every week you can remove 1 entire unit and recycle points

Wargear changes to existing units are acceptable

 

I added Bjorn and made minor wargear changes

WGBL ditched his krakensword and storm shield for a thunder hammer 

GHPL got a powerfist upgrade just in case

 

 

My friend had the following

 

++ Patrol Detachment (Imperium - Blood Angels) [54 PL, 747pts] ++
 
+ Troops
 
Scout Squad 
. Scout : Boltgun
. Scout : Boltgun
. Scout : Boltgun
. Scout : Boltgun
. Scout Sergeant : Bolt pistol, Boltgun
 
+ HQ  +
 
Captain in Terminator Armour : Power sword , Storm bolter 
 
Librarian Dreadnought : 2. Unleash Rage, 5. Gift of Foresight, 6. Wings of Sanguinus, Furioso fist , Storm bolter , The Veritas Vitae, Warlord
 
+ Elites +
 
Terminator Squad 
. Terminator : Power fist , Storm bolter
. Terminator : Power fist , Storm bolter 
. Terminator : Power fist , Storm bolter 
. Terminator : Power fist , Storm bolter 
. Terminator : Power fist , Storm bolter 
. Terminator Sergeant : Power sword , Storm bolter 
 
+ Fast Attack  +
 
Inceptor Squad : 2x Inceptor , Inceptor Sergeant
. Two plasma exterminators : 2x Plasma exterminator 
 
 
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Mission: No idea what it is called.  5 objectives.  1 in the middle is worth 2.  If you take and hold opponent side you get a bonus point every round.
Deployment in opposite corners
 
He won the roll to determine which corner to use.
 
Both of us are noobs and we made our mistakes
 
Mine-I should have put my LF deep in the corner and used range and buffer space.  Instead my LF-lascannon were plopped on the objective in cover but pretty far up.  I tried to buffer them with GH but everything was too close for my tastes.
 
His-He could have placed his scouts on any objective and realized it once the game started and he started advancing.  His terminators took control of the middle spot easily
 
 
I placed LF-plasma and WGBL in reserves
He placed his terminator captain and plasma inceptor in reserves
 
I won the roll off to go first and chose 2nd (MISTAKE).  I have been reading batreps about using 2nd move to go after objectives and play the mission but I keep forgetting at such LOW point values killing is priority.  This decision almost cost me the game.
 
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Turn 1 his scouts start advancing for a corner objective
The main formation (dread/terminators/captain) advance forward into the good objective
The plasma inceptors arrive near another objective
 
He unloads on my poor GH squad in front.  Storm bolter fire from the terminators kills 4 of the pack leaving the plasma and WG with combi-plasma alive.
The plasma inceptors join the fun and land 4 wounds.  The WGPL raises his shield to tank and fails miserably.  He rolls a 1 and another 1 after I use a CP.  The entire GH pack is wiped out. First blood/strike whatever point for my opponent.
 
*Funny note...that particular WGPL has rolled 4 1's in his short career so far using the storm shield.
 
 
 
I advance the wolves as a screen for Bjorn as he angles towards scouts and terminators in the middle
 
I decide I need to remove the plasma inceptors as a priority target and all my reserves arrive in that corner
 

Shooting is absolutely miserable

 

I start with LF-lascannon on the plasma inceptors.  A single lascannon blows through a model.  I learn they have T5 (not 4) and my bolter fire hits but is not wounding.

I then pour it on with the LF-plasma and they only cause 3 wounds total (I did NOT overcharge).

The unit survives with a single wound

 
Bjorn is too far away and fires at the scouts dropping 2.

 

 

End Turn 1

Primary 1:3

Opponent earned 1st blood/strike but I failed to finish off the plasma inceptor

 

Me 1 objective held by my LF-lascannon

Opponent has corner objective from inceptors and middle objective

 

 

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The dread moves towards my WGBL and LF-plasma.  He smites 1 of the LF pack.

The lone plasma inceptor maxed his shots and unloaded 6 plasma into the LF-plasma squad wiping them off the map...I'm in a bit of trouble now

The terminators fire at the LF-lascannon but they have a 2+ save from cover and only suffer 1 loss

 

I respond by maneuvering my exposed WGBL for a charge on the dread.  I have a TH and can potentially drop it if I roll well.  I ask what weapons it has for overwatch.  My friend informs me it has a SB and heavy flamer.  I am not rushing a heavy flamer with only 4 wounds on my WGBL.  I position myself at 8.00001.  My friend and I agree it is stupid a flamer can't be used in overwatch if the charge starts outside of range.

 

Bjorn and the wolves continue to maneuver left and towards middle objective.  1 cyberwolf rolls a 6 for advance and gets in range of the objective on the far left. 

 

Bjorn fires his assault cannon at the lone inceptor and drops him (the last wound roll was failed and got him).

LF-lascannon fire at terminators but all saves are made.

 

 

I survive the SB overwatch and roll a 1 and a 2 for the charge.  Super fail.  I was going to use a CP here if the roll was close but decline.   This could be game changing now.

 

*Note later in the game my friend realizes he does NOT have a flamer...would have seriously changed this turn

 

 

End Turn 2

Primary 2:3

total (3:6)

I have my original objective under LF and the cyberwolf grabs one

He has the middle objective and the librarian dread has closed with the corner one

 

 

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The librarian dread moves to extreme range for a smite on my WGBL so he can close the gap with the LF-lascannons

The scouts move into rapid fire to clear the single wolf screening Bjorn from the terminators

 

Smite lands 3 wounds on the WGBL....ouch

He then uses wings and soars towards the LF pack ending about 5 inches away

 

Scouts fail to kill the wolf

Captain rapid fires and does the job

 

6 terminators in rapid fire range fire 24 shots at Bjorn

He gets 19 hits thanks in part to captain rerolls

 

Here is where Bjorn shines.  The old man has T8 unlike most other dreads.  My friend can't believe he needs 6's to hurt him

 

1 wound gets through in the end

 

The librarian dread then declares his charge on my LF

He rolls double 1's

He uses his CP and rolls another 1.  

 

This may be enough to get me back in the game!!

 

 

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The time has come to pounce.  I have setup my maneuvering as best I can and Bjorn is in position to rip the terminators apart and remove the PFs before they can strike

 

Bjorn makes a beeline for the terminators

The WGBL is still shaking off the psychic beating he took and can only advance 1" in his attempt to rejoin the fight

The cyberwolf closes with the scouts and prepares to charge

 

The LFs fire into the dread bearing down on them

A single lascannon pierces the armor but only does 2 damage

 

Bjorn fires at the scouts but only manages to kill 1.  The wolf will have to put in some work and secure that objective.

 

The cyberwolf clears the overwatch and shreds both scouts.  AP-1 on the wolf is such a nice bonus.  Objective secured.  Good puppy

 

Bjorn rampages into the terminators and lands everything as expected with rerolls for everything

The terminators roll 2 6's and 3 bodies are removed after I roll damage

 

My friend chooses to focus on daisy chaining the objective instead of piling in.  He only gets 1 PF in range to strike me and it misses.

 

 

End Turn 3

Primary 2:2

total (5:8)

 

I have my LF and wolf objectives

My friend holds the middle

 

 

I have no more pictures because we got the 30 min warning the store had to close so we hurried things along

 

Turn 4 he falls back from combat with Bjorn and sits on the objective.  I tell him wise choice b/c warrior born bjorn would have let me strike first anyways

His dread casually strolls up to my LF and prepares to wipe them

 

Smite leaves only 2 LF left.  I choose the WGPL with storm shield and a single LC to survive.

 

The dread charges in and lands 5 blows.

 

My WGPL saves every single one with his storm shield.

 

My turn I have the LFs fall back just enough to take the objective (2 models to 1 model)

Bjorn walks up to the terminators to finish the job and is joined by the WGBL from the other side.

 

The 2 HQs converge on the middle and smash every single enemy to a pulp.

 

My army now faces a single librarian dreadnought

 

 

End Turn 4

Primary 4:0

total (9:8)

 

I have the middle.  My wolf and LFs hold the others

 

Turn 5 the librarian dread marches towards the middle but can't make us the closest unit.  He smites my LF pack out of existence.

He then uses wings to close the gap.

 

He fires at the WGBL trying to drop the final wound.  I am in cover but roll a 1 against the SB wound.  I burn my final CP to stay alive.

 

The dread charges the WGBL.

Bjorn heroically intervenes.

 

His dread pounds my WGBL to a bloody pulp.  I couldn't afford a storm shield this match...

Bjorn exacts revenge and finishes the match.  3 wounds get through I roll triple 6 for damage

 

Even with an explosion Bjorn is still left standing with his faithful wolf securing another objective.

 

Victory for the wolves and my first ever table victory.

 

I'm still learning how scoring works but apparently max score was 11 and I only get 10 (I failed to get first strike/blood whatever).


Edited by TiguriusX, 13 February 2018 - 07:59 AM.

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Week 3 escalation game at 1000 points

 

I deleted my WGBL to free up some points to add 2 venerable dreads and brought the following

 

 
1000 Escalation (Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition) [56 PL, 1000pts]
Patrol Detachment (Imperium - Space Wolves)
HQ
Bjorn the Fell-handed
Selections: Assault cannon, Heavy flamer, Saga of the Warrior Born, Trueclaw, Warlord
 
Troops
Grey Hunters (Plasma gun + WGPL with CP/SS)
 
Elites
2xVenerable Dreadnought w/ Fenrisian Great Axe and Blizzard Shield
 
Fast Attack
2xCyberwolves
 
Heavy Support
 Long Fangs (3xLC + WGPL w/ SB and SS)
 Long Fangs (3xPC)
 
 
Tyranids
4xHive Tyrants with wings and gear (devourer something about mindworms...dude was throwing buckets of dice but only S4 no AP)
 
Neurothrope
 
3xRipper swarms

 

 

I have a picture of the list but it came out blurry as hell

 

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Upon seeing his list I thought well crap...game over I can't assault flying units.  I asked the TO to clarify that rule and was told I am wrong.  That only applies to "flyers" like vehicles where a specific mode says that rule.  Treat them as normal.  Woo hoo.  I mean I still had to deal with 5 psyker units that could smite me into oblivion but I had a shot.

 

We set up a fairly balance map and he won the roll to choose map sides.

 

 

Dawn of war deployment

Mission: 5 objectives (middle and each corner)

Special rule...if you capture the objective on your opponents side you can "burn" it down for D3 points and destroy it

 

 

 

 

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Nothing special to report here.  He put 3 of his HT in reserve.  The neurothrope was on the opposite side of the board from his warlord HT.

 

I setup most of my forces in the corner to force an engagement with my dreads.  I left a single cyberwolf on the far side with the objective.  The GH pack went on the hunt in reserve

 

LF-LC were in the cover of the woods with good coverage  sitting on the objective

 

I won first turn and he failed to seize

 

 

T1-Top

I advanced the venerables and popped smoke

 

Bjorn shot at the ripers and killed 4

 

Plasma shot a few rippers but didn't wipe out the squad.  I tell him nuts now I can't shoot your HT.

 

He says why not?  It has 12 wounds he isn't protected (son of a B!!!)

 

LF-LC put 2 wounds on his warlord

 

I did NOT deploy the GHs

 

 

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T1-Bottom

 

He drops in around me hoping to clear the dreads and wipe Bjorn off the map.  

 

He perils on his first smite attempt but eventually smites 4 wounds off my venerable dread.  However, thanks to the chapter approved changes he fails smite on the cyberwolf (needed an 8 and rolled 7).

 

He unloads buckets of dice at the wounded dread and blows it off the table.  I rolled horribly and blew a CP here.  The kill earns him First Blood/strike (something I still haven't done in my 3 game career)

 

He is able to put 3 more wounds on my other dread and 1 on Bjorn himself.  He does NOT assault.

 

Score: 2:2

We each hold our backfield objectives

 

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T2-Top

 

Bjorn is in the open with no shield.  He says YOLO and moves to the nearest HT.

I send the other venerable dread to the only guy he has a hope of charging.  

 

I bring the GH in to assist with this cluster F.  Originally I was considering placing them at the diagonal corner and taking his objective but I need that plasma just in case.

 

I need to have ranged fire drop one of these HTs

My LF-PC overcharge and land 5 potential wounds on a HT.  The HT makes 4/5 saves

My LF-LC face a similar result and only put 2 more wounds on a HT. 

No ranged support helping this round and I need to come up with plan B.  The GHs are assigned to clear the rippers off the objectives and play for the primary mission.  They only kill 2...

 

Maybe my assault phase will go better

 

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Bjorn charges in first and puts 9 wounds on his target.  That is enough to finish him off thanks to the ranged fire this round.  He consolidates to try and block LOS and lure the HTs closer

 

The venerable dread gets 13 potential wounds using up my last CP but the HT makes enough saves to have 1 wound remaining

 

The GHs make their 10" charge into the ripper swarm but only kill 2.  There is a single ripper left.  However they did enough to surround the objective and should secure it if they don't die.

 

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T2-Bottom

 

2 HTs fly off after Bjorn

The severely wounded one can't get far enough and decides to go after my GH in the corner

 

The neurothrope and rippers close on my lone dog.

 

He smites the dog off the objective

He smites a single GH

He fails to smite Bjorn

 

He then fails to injure Bjorn with buckets of dice (T8 is a big deal)

He tells me he wants to fire his HT in the corner at the GHs.  This was my first true sportsmanship test.  He had failed to have his ripper swarm fall back in the movement phase.  Technically he couldn't fire at me.  I let him move the ripper and fire at me expecting to lose all my GHs

Karma smiles at me.  He fails to kill any GHs who are in cover against buckets of dice.  They make every 2+ roll

 

In the assault phase he charges his HT in to my GHs

 

The GHs make every 3+ save

 

I laugh and tell him the history of this GH unit and how they have rolled nothing but 1's prior to this. 

 

The GHs hear me mocking them and manage to wound the HT (using S4 chainswords against a T7 monster).  He fails his save and dies to the GHs.

 

Score 2(4): 2(4)

I hold my objective and have taken his corner objective.

He has done the same taking my lone cyberwolf objective

 

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T3-Top

 

Bjorn rounds the corner at the middle objective and prepares to greet another HT

My venerable dread advances towards the fun

 

The GH rapid fire the last remaining ripper off the board

The LF-LC put 4 wounds on his warlod HT

 

Assault time!

 

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Bjorn wades in to melee and drops 15 wounds on the HT killing it

 

 

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He surveys the field and knows he has put in some work.

 

T3-Bottom

 

My opponent concedes the match

 

 

 

 

Victory for the wolves!


Edited by TiguriusX, 20 February 2018 - 07:31 AM.

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Wow, looks like you did great.

 

The only glaring rules thing I saw was in game 2. Terminators cannot rapid fire 24 shots.

Storm bolters are assault weapons and do not benefit from rapid fire rule. This is for bolt guns only, because they are not assault weapons. Unless that ruling has changed in 8th compared to 7th, that is.


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The only glaring rules thing I saw was in game 2. Terminators cannot rapid fire 24 shots.
Storm bolters are assault weapons and do not benefit from rapid fire rule. This is for bolt guns only, because they are not assault weapons. Unless that ruling has changed in 8th compared to 7th, that is.


It has indeed changed in 8th! Storm Bolters are Rapid Fire 2 meaning they can fire 4 shots each at close range.

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Wow, looks like you did great.

The only glaring rules thing I saw was in game 2. Terminators cannot rapid fire 24 shots.
Storm bolters are assault weapons and do not benefit from rapid fire rule. This is for bolt guns only, because they are not assault weapons. Unless that ruling has changed in 8th compared to 7th, that is.


In 8th storm Bolters are rapid fire.

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Are they... I need to get more up to date with the rules... Heresy still runs 7th so hard to keep up :D


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Are they... I need to get more up to date with the rules... Heresy still runs 7th so hard to keep up biggrin.png

 

8th is fun you are missing out.  It was all the great reviews and addressing what I hated (super cheese and deathstars) that finally convinced me to start the hobby and play in a FLGS

 

I only have a few gripes currently

-flamers don't ignore cover anymore

-techmarines don't get a free servo arm attack...it is a weapon they may choose to make 1 attack with


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For sure, 8th edition has its share of bugs and what worked and made sense in 7th doesn't always do so now. However in general I would say I am enjoying 40K more than I have for a while so I think on balance it is good.

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Great batreps TiguriusX looks like you are learning very quickly
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Are they... I need to get more up to date with the rules... Heresy still runs 7th so hard to keep up biggrin.png

 

8th is fun you are missing out.  It was all the great reviews and addressing what I hated (super cheese and deathstars) that finally convinced me to start the hobby and play in a FLGS

 

I only have a few gripes currently

-flamers don't ignore cover anymore

-techmarines don't get a free servo arm attack...it is a weapon they may choose to make 1 attack with

 

 

For sure, 8th edition has its share of bugs and what worked and made sense in 7th doesn't always do so now. However in general I would say I am enjoying 40K more than I have for a while so I think on balance it is good.

 

So if storm bolters are rapid fire, does that mean, if you shoot with them you can no longer assault?


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The shoot and assault limitations are gone

Only advancing prevents a charge

Many things have seep strike too and there is no more scatter. Alpha striking is a thing and screen units meant to die are needed too

The mortality rate in 8th is off the charts
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