Caillum Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Well, I think that the Xana Incursion counts as Legion fluff. It’s an epic story about Sons of Horus, Loyalist Blackshields posing as Sons of Horus, Knights Errant, Dark Angels AND Mechanicum. Fangbanger 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 My favourite has to be the Battle of Hive Ilium (and the boarding of the Triumph of Reason) in Book IV, Conquest. Talking to Alan Bligh about that is probably my happiest hobby related memory. A wonderfully cinematic passage that shows the Sons of Horus doing what they do best, and one of those rare moments where you read something that makes your favourite faction as incredibly badass as you always wanted them to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted February 10, 2018 Author Share Posted February 10, 2018 I think the hisstory of Xana could be expanded into a long-running series Fangbanger 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 My favourite has to be the Battle of Hive Ilium (and the boarding of the Triumph of Reason) in Book IV, Conquest. Talking to Alan Bligh about that is probably my happiest hobby related memory. A wonderfully cinematic passage that shows the Sons of Horus doing what they do best, and one of those rare moments where you read something that makes your favourite faction as incredibly badass as you always wanted them to be. And Abaddon in particular. Finally gives some ammunition against the "all he did was lead spearheads" argument. Also King-Eater is a mighty ship name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share Posted February 11, 2018 Reading Conquest was like getting punched in the gut repeatedly as a hardcore loyalist fan...which I think was the point. foamy248 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 (edited) My favourite has to be the Battle of Hive Ilium (and the boarding of the Triumph of Reason) in Book IV, Conquest. Talking to Alan Bligh about that is probably my happiest hobby related memory. A wonderfully cinematic passage that shows the Sons of Horus doing what they do best, and one of those rare moments where you read something that makes your favourite faction as incredibly badass as you always wanted them to be. And Abaddon in particular. Finally gives some ammunition against the "all he did was lead spearheads" argument. Also King-Eater is a mighty ship name. Couldn't agree more. It was a conscious decision of AB's to have him acting as a Horus-substitute, highlighting his talent and status. I also like to imagine that he pimp slapped the Lord Protector of Manachea into a wall with his power fist upon entering the Palace of Light, given the book's description. Edited February 11, 2018 by Marshal Loss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 (edited) Favorite Legion presentation: - Wolves - Thousand Sons - Salamanders - Raven Guard Favorite campaigns: - Ebon Drake saga - that one campaign with NL, IW and Orks - Prospero Burns Favorite "other stuff": - Blackshields! IMHO Bit of a Wolves / Sons fan. ;) Edited February 12, 2018 by Kelborn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted February 13, 2018 Author Share Posted February 13, 2018 What were your fabourtite aspects of the SW and TS fluff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 That Loyalist Iron Warrior's deadpan report of how he spent multiple weeks crawling out of a hole in the ground with multiple wrecked limbs deserves a mention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted February 13, 2018 Author Share Posted February 13, 2018 Which book which page? Sounds hilarious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Which book which page? Sounds hilarious That would be Extermination, page 31. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 What were your fabourtite aspects of the SW and TS fluff? Those are my favorite Legions, so I'm a bit biased. I like the way how they expand upon the TS structures, their potency, etc. Was hoping for at least three exemplary battles for the Wolves instead of one, though. But their take on Fenris and the Legion itself was satisfying, imho. Burning of Prospero (The event itself) is what drew me to 30K. That's why Inferno is my only HH Book of FW. Custodes, etc. are a nice bonus, as well. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kais Klip Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Nothing tops slinging a moon at an enemy forgr world while assaulting it.I did some math based on the numbers provided in the story, and it doesn’t work out. The energy required to push a moon sufficiently would have pulverized the it, and been better spent in a direct bombardment of Bodt. I kinda had to do it after rediscovering that old “Rocks are not free, citizen!” White Dwarf article explaining why the Imperial Navy didn’t just hurl asteroids at target planets. Dunno if this link will work: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2048956328709538&id=1811547999117040&__tn__=-R I liked the Alpha Legion exemplary battle, The Hunting of the Ak’Haireth. That’s the one where they poison a human population with a 7% mortality rate to kill the xenos feeding on them - one of the few noncombat stories and a glimpse of darkness in a brighter past. I think Iron Hand physics is the last physics you should question ;) To dispel this for the last time: You misunderstand the situation; Bodt's moon was not in a circular orbit like you or many a critic assumed. Rather, it has an elliptical orbit, and it was nudged just very slightly when it was heading back to Bodt. The fact that Bodt possesses serious seasonal volcanic activity indicates active tectonic plates at specific points in time, backing up the elliptical orbit theory. Also, the frequently quoted "Moon-shift" source from WD actually relates to far out asteroids. Clan Morragul thinks bigger. TL;DR: Crash Maven, Not Phobos. http://spaceflight101.com/maven/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/orbit_compare-512x394.jpg choppyred, carlisimo, Fire Golem and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 (edited) Given what French has said about Bligh's commitment to "a wider erudition", I can believe that. Edited February 14, 2018 by bluntblade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Payton Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 The Salamanders' assault on the Tempest Galleries is amazing, especially given that it is a look at unification. I also liked the Battle of Paramar - it showcased a more grounded, believable Alpha Legion then lazier fluff (and memes) would suggest. DarKnight 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlisimo Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 I think Iron Hand physics is the last physics you should question ;) To dispel this for the last time: You misunderstand the situation; Bodt's moon was not in a circular orbit like you or many a critic assumed. Rather, it has an elliptical orbit, and it was nudged just very slightly when it was heading back to Bodt. The fact that Bodt possesses serious seasonal volcanic activity indicates active tectonic plates at specific points in time, backing up the elliptical orbit theory. Also, the frequently quoted "Moon-shift" source from WD actually relates to far out asteroids. Clan Morragul thinks bigger. TL;DR: Crash Maven, Not Phobos. http://spaceflight101.com/maven/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/orbit_compare-512x394.jpg I assumed an eccentricity of 0.75 in my calculations. (e=0 is a circle, e=1 is a hyperbola - anything in between is an ellipse, with a greater eccentricity as you approach 1). The problem is the time - the story states “a matter of hours” and gives a normal fly-by distance of 500,000 km (implying that’s the perigee). That orbital distance and a small nudge are incompatible with a short timeframe. Not saying it’s a big deal… I was just having an odd day and wanted to do some math. choppyred 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashur Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 The Salamanders, Iron Hands and Raven Guard fluff are specially great for me, since their presence and primarchs have been quite underwelming in the Horus Heresy series. The FW books do them justice and make them fascinating again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarKnight Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Paramar was a perfect example of how the Alpha Legion should operate on a Legion wide level involving all resources such as armor, artillery, infantry etc. but as someone stated earlier all of the famous battles are great Balthamal 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 The Raven Guard's flight across Isstvan V is so much more evocative than in the BL novella. Also makes them more than just ninjas, whereas I feel the novella ditched that to just... show Corvus being a ninja. I also dig the bit in Conquest where Mortarion brawls with a Contemptor and just shrugs off the blows. DarKnight 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Tricky but: Legion Backgrounds Alpha Legion Thousand Sons Space Wolves Night Lords Ultramarines Campaigns Xana Paramar V Prospero Scourging of Nostramo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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