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Adeptus Custodes FW beta rules


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Woah, 370 for the Grav Carrier? Not bad. It also just says 6 Custodes infantry, doesn't matter if they are in TDA or not for now.

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Well the caladius answers our anti tank problem!

Edit: just noticed you have to pay for the weapons on top of the 220... maybe not

Edited by Lion El Josh, 13 February 2018 - 03:07 PM.

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Contemptors and Land Raiders got nerfed, you now need “Aegis of the Emperor” to make use of it instead of “Adeptus Custodes”.

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AND be Infantry or Bikers.  

 

The tanks are fragile for our army, 3+ and 6++ - that's gonna hurt, even with the 6+++ from FNP.  Beta rules sure, but it's gonna hurt.  The flip side is FLY, so they won't be locked in melee either.

 

The Achillus I think will be barely worth it, but worth it - it's a beast.  The rest seem a bit overcosted, but needed.  So many better options than a Land Raider.


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315 for the Caladius with 8 S8 AP-3 Dd3 shots to 60”, 3+/6++/6+++, -1 to be hit in melee, and the critical FLY keyword? And a wicked fast 16”? Yeah I’m happy.

 

The Coronus is 30 points cheaper than the VLR, gives up the 2+ and two lascannon shots - in return it is significantly faster, has an upgraded twin heavy bolter, is harder to hit in melee, carries an extra model (which means it can have two squads) and, again has FLY. Also happy.

I do think both are priced on the higher end - but as noted these are experimental rules and it's always better to start conservative and dial in from there, and these look like very good starting points.


Edited by wildweasel, 13 February 2018 - 03:48 PM.


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Oh man I've been looking for a good enough reason to buy the dreadspear contemptor, those rules are awesome!  I must resist until my birthday.


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I would also note, the Lastrum Bolter is pretty nice.  Rapid Fire 2, Str 5, AP -1!   And the Achillus has two of them...  That's 8 shots into a unit before the charge.  Nice!


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I'm a fan of the Contemptor-Achillus miniature and rules, punch at range and up close. I'm guessing they'll release the Contemptor-Galatus rules later?

 

Lastrum Bolters are a nice touch, should help with crowd control under 12".


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So for like 50 more points I get a landraider with better save and it dosnt take negatives go hit when it moves..... very underwhelming for the points. I hope a lot changes from these beta to actual release. Was very excited.....now not so much. :/

Guns kill people? What a ridiculously absurd statement! Guns don't kill people, clockwork automatons EQUIPPED with guns do...

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I'm a fan of the Contemptor-Achillus miniature and rules, punch at range and up close. I'm guessing they'll release the Contemptor-Galatus rules later?

 

Lastrum Bolters are a nice touch, should help with crowd control under 12".

IS lastrum what the Saggitarum have? If so may be seeing those as well? NVMno the same haha


So for like 50 more points I get a landraider with better save and it dosnt take negatives go hit when it moves..... very underwhelming for the points. I hope a lot changes from these beta to actual release. Was very excited.....now not so much. :/

Big thing for me is the fly though. The games i have wacthed, the enemy has made it a priority to lock the LR down in combat


Edited by betrayer41, 13 February 2018 - 04:08 PM.


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The Dreadnought is pretty boss for 245 as you can deepstrike it.

The tank is really nice but too many points. Grav Carrier will definitely work.

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*looks at the stat line for the Arachnus las-blaze*

*is afraid of the Arachnus blaze cannon*


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I'm a fan of the Contemptor-Achillus miniature and rules, punch at range and up close. I'm guessing they'll release the Contemptor-Galatus rules later?

 

Lastrum Bolters are a nice touch, should help with crowd control under 12".

IS lastrum what the Saggitarum have? If so may be seeing those as well? NVMno the same haha


 

No, the Sagitarrum have the equivalent of the weapon the "Imperial Space Marine" has in the Index with all the Space Marines in it.  At least it was the same weapon in 7th.



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The Callidus needs to be priced around the 260ish point mark with all weapons.

This would make it comparable to the popular Sicaran variants, costing more due to fly and slightly boosted defences.

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So get some playtest reports in! I know I'm gonna!



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I think the dreads are on the low side of attacks. Same as allarus and wardens? Strange. I would have gone 5 or 6. Hmm.

Coronus suffers the issues of the floaty raider too many points.

Dread spear in cc is our first and only at bare minimum flat 3 damage. That's awesome. Super happy.

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Yeah, the Dreadspear is good.  Potentially even great.  Particularly with its shootiness.  The fact it will do 3-6 damage per hit even better.  



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It all lacks Aegis? The codex says all AC have it. Looks like these fellas are exceptions.


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It all lacks Aegis? The codex says all AC have it. Looks like these fellas are exceptions.

You are aware that the Contemptor and Land Raider in the codex don't have Aegis right?



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It all lacks Aegis? The codex says all AC have it. Looks like these fellas are exceptions.

 

They've errata'ed Aegis to say "some" units :)



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It all lacks Aegis? The codex says all AC have it. Looks like these fellas are exceptions.

You are aware that the Contemptor and Land Raider in the codex don't have Aegis right?
The Codex required the unit to have “Adeptus Custodes”, to get Aegis that was removed in the FAQ. So no more 5++ on the Land Raider anymore.

Edited by CCE1981, 13 February 2018 - 05:09 PM.


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It all lacks Aegis? The codex says all AC have it. Looks like these fellas are exceptions.

You are aware that the Contemptor and Land Raider in the codex don't have Aegis right?
The Codex required the unit to have “Adeptus Custodes”, to get Aegis that was removed in the FAQ. So no more 5++ on the Land Raider anymore.

 

The Faq provided a minor clarification. They never had Aegis in the codex since it was listed on all other unit datasheets. People trying to use it to justify the LR having it were being stupid.



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Dreadspear is great with minimum 3 damage!

Caladius is too expensive and certainly too fragile for the points.

I agree things generally are a bit on the expensive side but hopefully these beta rules will be dialled back a bit on their points. I’d also like to see movement penalties removed from the vehicle weapons.
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245 seems pricy for the achillus.

But i want one!

Edit. I hope the upcoming IA book with more dead options (the gallatus is missing) has saggitarum in it as well.

Edited by Gentlemanloser, 13 February 2018 - 05:43 PM.

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So does anyone else think that the twin Arachnus is supposed to be 2d6 shots in burst mode? Its very strange for a twin weapon to have d6 shots since the twin weapon is normally just double the single weapon.


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