malika666 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 ADB should just get busy with the next Black Legion book, or perhaps do another tie-in with the Abnett-verse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheywood Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 ADB should just get busy with the next Black Legion book, or perhaps do another tie-in with the Abnett-verse! He just finished the first draft for BL 3! DukeLeto69 and malika666 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfred_the_great Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 First, find a soft back copy of Pariah - that’s not in German. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockagh Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Started rereading Pariah today in preparation for book two, probably a little early but it’s brilliant. Since I last read this I’m sure I’ve read all the eisenhorn and Ravenor books twice but never read pariah again. Completely stoked for the next book. Come on BL!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheywood Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Started rereading Pariah today in preparation for book two, probably a little early but it’s brilliant. Since I last read this I’m sure I’ve read all the eisenhorn and Ravenor books twice but never read pariah again. Completely stoked for the next book. Come on BL!!! I reread them all over the past couple of years and I’d say Pariah’s probably the best of the bunch. Eisenhorn and Ravenor might have done more to develop the feel of ‘domestic 40k’ and are arguably a little bit more exciting moment to moment, but Pariah throws you into a world that feels equal parts real and impossible, leaving the reader with just enough air to grasp it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockagh Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 There are things in it I’m not sure would be in it if it was written today. Other things that are in it are great and they seem to have been forgotten in the lore since. Were are the cuffs? Surely these should be a thing in both 30 and 40k? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheywood Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 There are things in it I’m not sure would be in it if it was written today. Other things that are in it are great and they seem to have been forgotten in the lore since. Were are the cuffs? Surely these should be a thing in both 30 and 40k? Abnett’s treatment of pariahs in general seems relatively removed from the rest of the BL canon. He spends less time emphasizing their mystical otherness and more time focusing on how they integrate into the Imperium. I don’t think any other authors have used the concept of pariah limiters for instance, even though psyker limiters are relatively common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockagh Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 I wonder will we see changes made for canon purposes in book 2 or will Abnett get a free run? He has a good history of setting the pace. In fairness the cuffs aren’t even in eisenhorn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheywood Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 I wonder will we see changes made for canon purposes in book 2 or will Abnett get a free run? He has a good history of setting the pace. In fairness the cuffs aren’t even in eisenhorn. I think he’ll get free run to do as he will. He’s not exactly beholden to BL for work and I can’t imagine he’d have come back without the promise of creative freedom. Good point about Eisenhorn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeLeto69 Posted September 20, 2020 Author Share Posted September 20, 2020 Something big lore wise is happening in either Penitent or Pandaemonium because Abnett said in interviews he had to get permission from GW/BL. I think things like cuffs are small fry in the lore and akin to “vox” “recaf” and “hot shot las”. Sometimes they get adopted by other writers and become part of the lore. The cuffs / limiters - has any other author written about blanks being used in same way? Off top of my head the only stories featuring blanks I can think of are Sisters of Silence so not covert agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockagh Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Brilliant reread. I’m completely stoked for penitent. Fans of Fehervari would love Pariah, quite similar to his writing. I think at least. What a gem of a book to have been hidden away for so many years. DukeLeto69 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmablasts Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 If I recall correctly, the Culexus assassin in Nemesis used a limiter when working undercover. I think I missed the news that Penitent had been written: fantastic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeLeto69 Posted December 5, 2020 Author Share Posted December 5, 2020 Is it nearly time to necro this thread? Cannot believe we are finally getting Penitent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliesin Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Yes and now to decide, to get the limited edition, or buy the hardback so there is a nice set with the new hardback release of Pariah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Yes and now to decide, to get the limited edition, or buy the hardback so there is a nice set with the new hardback release of Pariah... Annoyingly I can see myself getting both copies of Penitent... I really love the LE cover. Knockagh 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeLeto69 Posted December 6, 2020 Author Share Posted December 6, 2020 I won’t buy LE’s as they are just crazy money (IMO) but nutter that I am - if they released ALL the Eisenhorn and Ravenor books in new style hardback with cover styles that tied in with these new Bequin books, then I would buy the whole set! My wallet is screaming at me but I would have to do it!!!! I only have Eisenhorn in omnibus, Ravenor in paperbacks & omnibus, The Magos in paperback and Pariah in old style hardback. Having them match on the shelf would be nice (am a bit OCD I guess). Also note the spine style also matches the Dawn of Fire series and Dark Imperium series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malika666 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Can't wait for audiobook versions of Pariah and Penitent! Petitioner's City 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliesin Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 So given this synopsis for Penitent, does anyone want to speculate on what you expect this novel to cover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeLeto69 Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share Posted December 9, 2020 I still stand by the speculation many years back now that the big lore thing Abnett had to get agreement from GW to include was that the King in Yellow is either: 1) Lorgar (most likely) or 2) The God Emperor or an avatar of him (which is what I most hope for - ie TGE is actually alive and active in the warp manipulating stuff) Nineswords 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Could be Dorn or Valdor maybe? Who knows at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Haven’t read them recently enough to know if it’s at all plausible, but Valdor would be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Yes, but I hope Valdor remains a shadowy, grizzled Eye of the Emperor, so Valoris can continue his development as Captain-General. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineswords Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 I still stand by the speculation many years back now that the big lore thing Abnett had to get agreement from GW to include was that the King in Yellow is either: 1) Lorgar (most likely) or 2) The God Emperor or an avatar of him (which is what I most hope for - ie TGE is actually alive and active in the warp manipulating stuff) Either of these two possibilities is awesome — what I do know is the Yellow King is a psyker of immense power. Knockagh 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) How do we know the Yellow King is a powerful psyker? Though I think there's a theory he's Ahriman or Eisenhorn himself? Even heard Endymion Ra thrown around. Edited December 11, 2020 by b1soul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc warhammer Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 isn't it the dude from true detective? no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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