Alpha Legion Model Inquiry

[Aothaine]

Hey everyone! Thinking about getting into Alpha legion but I wanted to take a route that is a little different than normal. Here is what I was thinking, it is kind of tied into the most recent TTT list.

 

My group of Alpha Legion took up residence on a far flung Mechanicus world and has turned the world into a engine designed to produce Alpha Legiony things. So here is what I was thinking...

 

The list: Very close to what was showing on TTT. So I'm thinking of using the following models:

 

Contemptor Dreadnoughts: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-IT/Castellax-Achea-Battle-automata-Maniple-2017

 

Cultists: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Skitarii-Vanguard-2017

 

Noise Marines: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-IT/Mechanicum-Thallax-Cohort-Bundle

 

Daemon Prince: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-IT/Mechanicum-Thanatar-Siege-Automata

 

Gonna chaos things up a bit. Still looking around for some good obliterator models. If you have any suggestions please share. ^_^

[slitth]

To be honest this feels more like the Iron Warriors then the Alpha Legion.

I mean a world crafting Alpha Legion stuff only, does sound to stationary and exposed.

 

But the theme is different and does have potential.

 

I could see them as scrap code infiltrators, bringing down small Mechanicus worlds.

Bringing the loyal down with the creations they worship and the adding them to their own army.

 

But that just like my opinion, go with whatever you feel is right.

[Aothaine]

To be honest this feels more like the Iron Warriors then the Alpha Legion.

I mean a world crafting Alpha Legion stuff only, does sound to stationary and exposed.

 

But the theme is different and does have potential.

 

I could see them as scrap code infiltrators, bringing down small Mechanicus worlds.

Bringing the loyal down with the creations they worship and the adding them to their own army.

 

But that just like my opinion, go with whatever you feel is right.

 

 

No no. All opinions are valid. Before I walk down this road and spend $1000 I'd rather see as many criticisms as possible. Don't want to build the entire thing to have people not be in awe. Ya know?

 

What do you think of a single Alpha Legion Techmarine camping out at a forgeworld ensuring that the mechanical beasts created there are to be used in whatever goal Slaanesh needed? Slowly turning into a Daemon prince of Slaanesh and the Machine God possibly? Or perhaps the negation of feeling is what excited him. So he slowly turned most of himself into the robotic Daemon Prince that he is this day? Maybe he caught up with his old squad and was able to share in the pleasure of null-feelings?

 

It could also be that the leader of this squad realized how easily they could be killed and feared it. So he slowly took over a forge world by joining the ranks of the new techmarine class. He seemed a prodigy as he quickly picked up tasks. This was because he had already gone through the training at a different forge world. Then worked on transferring his consciousness into the machine with back protocols which allowed him to have immortality.

 

I know that Iron Warriors might fit the theme better. But I really like the forward operatives and the slaanesh double shoot stratagems. It's not really a cultist bomb if they have to walk up the board. :p 

Edited March 16, 2018 by Aothaine

[Redtoof]

Looks and sounds cool. I think you can wiggle around the fluff as much as you like with these guys to play them as alpha Legion or pretty much whatever.

 

In response to your model suggestions - I think your prince may be a bit too big. I've not seen the model myself but that guy looks to be Greater Daemon sized in the comparison pics.

[ChazSexington]

I would seriously advise against it. In essence, you're proxying. 

 

That your Alpha Legion is more Dark Mechanicum isn't a problem - the Alpha Legion is big and no two Warbands are the same.

 

Now for solutions: 

I would suggest getting a mix of Cadians and Skitarii as Cultists, alternatively look at Anvil Industries upcoming Bionic parts.

Other ideas from FW:
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-IT/Mechanicum-Secutarii-Peltasts-Upgrade-Set 

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-IT/Tech-Thrall-Covenant-with-Las-Locks 

Maybe some fun arms from Kromlech.

 

For Noise Marines, I'd grab some Kromlech Bedlam Fraternity bits and mix them with their bionic legs and CSM bits.

 

I would honestly not change the Contemptor, but with regards to the Daemon Prince, you could maybe model loads of cables and wires using the tentacle and cable maker from Green Stuff World.

 

http://www.greenstuffworld.com/en/roll-maker/69-roll-maker-tube-wire-machine.html 

[Aothaine]

I would seriously advise against it. In essence, you're proxying. 

 

That your Alpha Legion is more Dark Mechanicum isn't a problem - the Alpha Legion is big and no two Warbands are the same.

 

Now for solutions: 

I would suggest getting a mix of Cadians and Skitarii as Cultists, alternatively look at Anvil Industries upcoming Bionic parts.

Other ideas from FW:

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-IT/Mechanicum-Secutarii-Peltasts-Upgrade-Set 

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-IT/Tech-Thrall-Covenant-with-Las-Locks 

Maybe some fun arms from Kromlech.

 

For Noise Marines, I'd grab some Kromlech Bedlam Fraternity bits and mix them with their bionic legs and CSM bits.

 

I would honestly not change the Contemptor, but with regards to the Daemon Prince, you could maybe model loads of cables and wires using the tentacle and cable maker from Green Stuff World.

 

http://www.greenstuffworld.com/en/roll-maker/69-roll-maker-tube-wire-machine.html 

 

Dang... Lots of good ideas here. Thank you!

 

About the Contemptors I was going to modify the models I selected to show to correct weaponry baring the chain part on the claws until I can see what they actually look like.

 

I was also trying to keep everything Forgeworld/Games workshop I remember going to the store years and years ago and if you had outside models they wouldn't even let you play with them. Is it still the same now? Or have they gone a little lax in regards to that rule. I do agree that the models would most likely appear to be proxied and this army will require a LOT of custom work. I wasn't planning on using anything without massive customization. The models I listed there were just for the base of the model really, not going to just build and paint them the way they are.

 

The part of chaos that these guys are going through is more mechanical than warp related. At least that was what I was going for.

Edited March 16, 2018 by Aothaine

[Akrim]

I agree, think the Thanatar is a giant, much too large and heavily armored for a DP.

 

Kitbashing is a good way to go with Dark Mech units, I used Skittari Vanguards mixed with GSC Neophyte bits for my R&H Heretek Maurauders: http://ikaranchronicles.blogspot.ca/2018/01/the-sybaris-rebellion-vi-insurrection-i.html?m=1

 

A few simple weapons mods to move them away from being armed with obvious Skittari weapons, head swaps and youre good to go.

 

Im eyeing up corrupting some Myrmidon Destructors for Mech Obliterators. They look pretty sinister in their stock form as is.

[Aothaine]

Yeah... maybe the Thanatar is too big. However, this might work..

 

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-IT/Mechanicum-Castellax-Battle-Automata-with-Multi-melta

 

 

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2d/b7/1f/2db71f224b99fb7fac450dcf0603ace8.jpg

 

There is a picture of sizes. If the base on the Thanatar wasn't so large I might still be tempted to use it. But I'm not sure it would be accepted at tournaments with a base that big. 

[slitth]

You could use Belisarius Cawl as a base for you Daemon Prince.

Replace the head with something reptilian, add more wires to the model.

 

I mean it already looks "wrong" and corrupted, you just need to give it the last push for it to be embraced by Slaanesh.

 

Oh and if you still want a home base for the warband, they not a scrapyard world.

That would be a good place to hide and a nice trap for the greedy or curious.

[Bat33.1]

I think it would be cool and a nice way to use some of those glorious mechanicum models in 40k because hanging on for FW to release rules is going to be a long wait from information I have heard recently.

 

What about this model as your DP base? https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-IT/Mechanicum-Domitar-Battle-automata smaller than the Thanatar but larger than the Castellax

 

GW still have the no third party models rule in stores and at WHW it has to be 75% GW I think, so head swaps ok and similar but they will not accept full third party models. You might find a store that allows it but it's a gamble.

[Aothaine]

I think it would be cool and a nice way to use some of those glorious mechanicum models in 40k because hanging on for FW to release rules is going to be a long wait from information I have heard recently.

 

What about this model as your DP base? https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-IT/Mechanicum-Domitar-Battle-automata smaller than the Thanatar but larger than the Castellax

 

GW still have the no third party models rule in stores and at WHW it has to be 75% GW I think, so head swaps ok and similar but they will not accept full third party models. You might find a store that allows it but it's a gamble.

 

 

I was looking into that model as well. Though I'm still really thinking about the Thanatar for the daemon prince. I might be going with iron warriors after all and if I do the fleshmetal exoskeleton relic should provide ample reason for all the armor. But it is the size of a Greater Daemon so maybe it won't work. I still have a few months before I get to a point where I can order this stuff. Just trying to work out what is going to be what.

 

Thanks in advance everyone for all the thoughts and suggestions.

[ChazSexington]

 

I would seriously advise against it. In essence, you're proxying. 

 

That your Alpha Legion is more Dark Mechanicum isn't a problem - the Alpha Legion is big and no two Warbands are the same.

 

Now for solutions: 

I would suggest getting a mix of Cadians and Skitarii as Cultists, alternatively look at Anvil Industries upcoming Bionic parts.

Other ideas from FW:

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-IT/Mechanicum-Secutarii-Peltasts-Upgrade-Set 

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-IT/Tech-Thrall-Covenant-with-Las-Locks 

Maybe some fun arms from Kromlech.

 

For Noise Marines, I'd grab some Kromlech Bedlam Fraternity bits and mix them with their bionic legs and CSM bits.

 

I would honestly not change the Contemptor, but with regards to the Daemon Prince, you could maybe model loads of cables and wires using the tentacle and cable maker from Green Stuff World.

 

http://www.greenstuffworld.com/en/roll-maker/69-roll-maker-tube-wire-machine.html 

 

Dang... Lots of good ideas here. Thank you!

 

About the Contemptors I was going to modify the models I selected to show to correct weaponry baring the chain part on the claws until I can see what they actually look like.

 

I was also trying to keep everything Forgeworld/Games workshop I remember going to the store years and years ago and if you had outside models they wouldn't even let you play with them. Is it still the same now? Or have they gone a little lax in regards to that rule. I do agree that the models would most likely appear to be proxied and this army will require a LOT of custom work. I wasn't planning on using anything without massive customization. The models I listed there were just for the base of the model really, not going to just build and paint them the way they are.

 

The part of chaos that these guys are going through is more mechanical than warp related. At least that was what I was going for.

 

 

Aye, GWs tend to have a GW/FW models only-policy, however it may vary. 

 

Have you considered Forgefiends, Defilers, Soulgrinders etc? 

 

I agree, think the Thanatar is a giant, much too large and heavily armored for a DP.

 

Kitbashing is a good way to go with Dark Mech units, I used Skittari Vanguards mixed with GSC Neophyte bits for my R&H Heretek Maurauders: http://ikaranchronicles.blogspot.ca/2018/01/the-sybaris-rebellion-vi-insurrection-i.html?m=1

 

A few simple weapons mods to move them away from being armed with obvious Skittari weapons, head swaps and youre good to go.

 

Im eyeing up corrupting some Myrmidon Destructors for Mech Obliterators. They look pretty sinister in their stock form as is.

 

Fantastic models btw!

 

You could use Belisarius Cawl as a base for you Daemon Prince.

Replace the head with something reptilian, add more wires to the model.

 

I mean it already looks "wrong" and corrupted, you just need to give it the last push for it to be embraced by Slaanesh.

 

Oh and if you still want a home base for the warband, they not a scrapyard world.

That would be a good place to hide and a nice trap for the greedy or curious.

 

There's that new Dark Mechanicum dude from Forge World coming out in a while, that might be even better!

 

Edit:

 

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/thumb/6/6b/ScoriaMini.jpg/487px-ScoriaMini.jpg

 

Anarchis Scoria!

Edited March 18, 2018 by ChazSexington