Moriarty Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 HI All, GW won't consider taking the Studio Ork army to Adepticon, as they don't have 4k points.Dakka has a thread suggesting all Ork players send an Ork model to bolster the army:https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforu...1.page#9881533Please consider their request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlamingDeth Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Didn’t they only have four options for armies? There’s plenty of other things they’re not considering because there’s probably a limited number of armies where they’ve got 4K points of stufff. That’s a pretty large army and it would be an insane amount of orks. I don’t have 4K worth of them either. I complain about GW plenty but I don’t see any reason to be up in arms about them not taking a high model count index army to a competitive tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaldoth Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I already posted my thoughts about this on another forum, but its kind of pointless in my opinion. The only Ork lists that are viable in tournaments right now are boyz swarms. 4k worth of boyz is over 1000 models. GW said the reason Orks didn't make the board is because they don't have 4k worth of painted Orks. This was taken by the community as "GW doesn't have 4k of Orks" in a literal sense, where I think GW really meant "We don't have 4k of painted Orks that are all from the same Klan and are viable tournament options." I won't be sending off a model. Orks will get their time in the sun this summer. Sending GW a bunch of painted Ork boyz isn't going to magically fix the fact we are stuck with an Index, nor is it going to change whoever is on the team writing our Codex, nor is it going to make Orks a viable choice at Adepticon. As I've always said, if you want to incite change, its best to use the proper channels and offer constructive criticism and suggestions to the official GW email. That's why they made the thing to begin with. Whether or not they take in the suggestions from the community and utilize them is completely out of our hands, but I'd like to think emailing them with in depth and well thought out suggestions will do a lot more than sending them a painted Ork boy. Seems childish to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moriarty Posted March 19, 2018 Author Share Posted March 19, 2018 Dude. We play with toy soldiers? Please feel free to not participate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Casman Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 That kind of response doesn't really help your cause, Moriarty. I honestly can't see this working too well overall, the painted boyz would be all over the place in terms of skill level and Klan representation, and the unpainted boyz would need to be painted; we'd make a lot of work for the events team to get ready for the next big thing. Like Kaldoth suggests, I think it'd be better to send GW encouragement - show them that there is a deep want for more Orks. Flood 'em with pics of our boyz, sort of thing. Especially where rumour suggests that we're in the pipeline for Codex releases, so GW is probably working on something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaldoth Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Dude. We play with toy soldiers? Please feel free to not participate. There's a difference between "playing with toy soldiers" childish and "sending a company that produces models their own models" childish. Honestly, think about it. You're a company that produces miniatures and wargaming material. You have released more codex's, FAQs, Errata, and miniatures in the last year than ever before. Your company has taken a complete 180 degree turn from the direction they were in a year ago. Despite all of these things, you now have a portion of your customer base sending you plastic Orks in the mail because you decided not to put them up as an option for an Adepticon poll. How then would you be inclined to treat that particular customer base? Sending GW a bunch of Orks in the mail is not going to accomplish anything. If anything, it will just further drive a wedge between them and the Ork community. Its bad enough we don't heve anyone working at GW that truly knows Orks. Starting what I would consider a rude badgering campaign against GW will likely just make them quit taking the Ork community seriously. I swear, the whining from Ork players in general is as bad as the Chaos community was back during 7th edition. If other Ork players are tired of it already, Im sure GW is too. So imagine how well its going to go over with them when they receive a bunch of random Orks in the post. Probably not very well. -You- may mean it to be all in good fun, but -they- will likely not receive it that way. There is this saying that goes "perception is reality." I would be inclined to perceive receiving my own products in the mail poorly, not constructively. Like I said, the best way to enact change is to be active in the community and give GW solid feedback about what works, what doesn't, and what we want/need. Not throwing what Im sure GW will see as a hissy fit via postbox <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moriarty Posted March 20, 2018 Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 So, I take it that's a 'no', then? We'll give it our best try, and see where it goes. Let me know if you arrange your positive feedback event, I'd be happy to contribute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead01 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 I think this is an over reaction because a lot of us long time ork players have lost so much faith in GWs Orks that we've become paranoid about a codex that is not even out yet. If the Nidz book was good and I have no idea if it was or wasn't, then I think the Ork codex will be good. I'd made a joke at one point about sending GW 4000 points of painted Orks but I definitely won't do that. If they send me 4000 points that they need painted I'll have it done in 30 days with picture updates for them but that would be silly. A point was made that the Orks don't have a codex yet so why would they have been taken. That's probably the best point I have read. GW's gunna do what GW's gunna do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtoof Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 I think this is an over reaction because a lot of us long time ork players have lost so much faith in GWs Orks that we've become paranoid about a codex that is not even out yet. If the Nidz book was good and I have no idea if it was or wasn't, then I think the Ork codex will be good. I'd made a joke at one point about sending GW 4000 points of painted Orks but I definitely won't do that. If they send me 4000 points that they need painted I'll have it done in 30 days with picture updates for them but that would be silly. A point was made that the Orks don't have a codex yet so why would they have been taken. That's probably the best point I have read. GW's gunna do what GW's gunna do. Tyranid codex is good, definitely bodes well for Orks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claws and Effect Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 So far all the Codexes have been at least decent. Space Marines are suffering from First Codex Syndrome, but otherwise they've mostly been pretty solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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