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Dealing with Death Company


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Well guys you don't have any problem if Beta rule will become a true rule. Nothing will charge you and you can position your army, so nothing will reach your tanks

But that only applies in matched play. If they're using open play or Narrative play, those rules don't matter.

Untrue. Even with beta rules there are many ways to pull off a turn one charge. Screens are as important as ever and an integral part of many lists. You will need to figure out screen tactics if you want to beat strong melee armies and compete in a competative meta.

Sacrifice the pawn to save your queen. Warhammer makes it way more complex but the basic premise remains.

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Did anyone suggestions Hull/ sponson mount heavy flamers where ever you can take them? They’ll make them think twice at least especially if the tanks are Catachan.

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Did anyone suggestions Hull/ sponson mount heavy flamers where ever you can take them? They’ll make them think twice at least especially if the tanks are Catachan.


99% they will be charging at 9.1" out of deep strike. 8' flamer range means 34 points of useless. Hell hounds can make a dent and will most likely be shot at instead by a savvy blood angel general.

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Untrue. Even with beta rules there are many ways to pull off a turn one charge.

Can you give an example? Transports are out, since disembarking has to happen before a transport moves, and if you can't deep strike in T1, what does that leave?

 

 

 

Screens are as important as ever and an integral part of many lists. You will need to figure out screen tactics if you want to beat strong melee armies and compete in a competative meta.

I agree, if you have something worth screening. Also, what about non-competitive metas?



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Blood Angels have a stratagem that lets them move twice and still shoot/charge. Death Company with Jetpacks will move 24" and not fail their charge.

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Well guys you don't have any problem if Beta rule will become a true rule. Nothing will charge you and you can position your army, so nothing will reach your tanks

But that only applies in matched play. If they're using open play or Narrative play, those rules don't matter.
Untrue. Even with beta rules there are many ways to pull off a turn one charge. Screens are as important as ever and an integral part of many lists. You will need to figure out screen tactics if you want to beat strong melee armies and compete in a competative meta.

Sacrifice the pawn to save your queen. Warhammer makes it way more complex but the basic premise remains.

Ratlings and sentinels are still important as a screen/speedbump.

They provided a primary screen under the current DS rules. With the beta, they almost create a redundant screen that must be removed first. If you ditch them now for something else, you only have the one screen of infantry. If your opponent wants to drop in, fine but to get any use out of his deep strikers, he has to take care of those first. Otherwise, the only viable targets will be guardsmen in your secondary screen.




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