lonewolf81 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 By the 12th of May they would have released at least 1 maybe 2 of the 3 (knights,clowns, deathwatch) and they re definately going to anounce something for the following orks and spacewolves in warhammer fest. Its a big event and they need the hype ... PS: I think knights will be 2 weeks cause of new models and deathwatch/clowns will be back to back releases 1 week for each like they did with dark eldar and necrons, starting from next week possibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Caldersson Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 GW knows people are getting impatient, just look at their social media sites to see it. Also didn't they say all major chapter would be released within 1 year (so June?) If so then May would be prime spot to sneak peak the SW and Ork codex's. Especially since it will right after the AoS big release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonewolf81 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Lets hope its the warhammer fest and not the Nova Open (30th august) that features a spacewolves studio preview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteySödes Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Lets hope its the warhammer fest and not the Nova Open (30th august) that features a spacewolves studio preview Well thanks, now thats in the universe.... :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saint Ragnar Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 I just happened to be traveling to Europe in time for Warhammer Fest so I will be there on the 12th. My hope is to hear any announcements live but mostly enjoy the event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triszin Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 I honestly expect the May 12th previews for 40k to be for ORks, Armageddon and a new Ghaz model, along with a new campaign that tosses in Imperial guard, Black templars, Orks, World eaters and Khorne. Prime ork ghaz model, RG primarch sized a armageddon triumvirant, Yarick, helbretch, a sister leads into fall coming of angron. sips tea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Caldersson Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 Orks we're supposed to be after some black legion stuff. I expect SW codex with a SW vs BL box near that, probably including new new Primaris and new BL models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triszin Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Orks we're supposed to be after some black legion stuff. I expect SW codex with a SW vs BL box near that, probably including new new Primaris and new BL models. If that rumored box is real, it'll be 13th co Marines vs black legion. Them we find out that legoinairs were half way in height between primaris and 40k Marines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Caldersson Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 I don't think GW would be willing to admit their whole HH line is not to scale. If 13th come out and are DG (near or are Primaris sized/ sized, I would be happy, other might not be. Some people were hoping to use plastic 13th company for their HH games. I also don't think GW is done with the Primaris and will phase in more in the future just like sigmarines. I think making "normal marines be genetically inferior is a good idea as it allows GW to make new Marines with legionaire genetics be 2 wound elite armies. Though I am not a game balancer so no idea how that would work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper_Hawser Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 I don't think GW would be willing to admit their whole HH line is not to scale. If 13th come out and are DG (near or are Primaris sized/ sized, I would be happy, other might not be. Some people were hoping to use plastic 13th company for their HH games. I also don't think GW is done with the Primaris and will phase in more in the future just like sigmarines. I think making "normal marines be genetically inferior is a good idea as it allows GW to make new Marines with legionaire genetics be 2 wound elite armies. Though I am not a game balancer so no idea how that would work. Personally I think the Primaris should be roughly the same rather than more expensive than normal marines. Let them keep their current inflexibility in wargear, but priced the same as regular. This way, we can have a choice between the more flexible armed but less tough veteran marines, or the inflexible but somewhat specialised and tougher Primaris marines. If they still want to force the Primaris on us and gradually replace the veterans, than they need to give back the weapons flexibility to the Primaris. that way, I would actually consider 13 point Intercessors with just bolt rifles/stalkers as infantry troop killers and effectively double wound marines, as opposed to 1 wound marines with melta/plasma and cn also ride in rhino/razorback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Caldersson Posted April 19, 2018 Author Share Posted April 19, 2018 Primaris have a extra wound and attack which makes them superior. My statement of them not being done with Primaris is what you suggest. New units with new weapons, Combi weapons, melee weapons, heavy weapons. Then we also need mixed weapon units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Bearclaw Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 I really hope we're not bundled in with a BL release/box. Because you know that'll just reduce us to the latest cannon fodder to feed Abby-sue. Haven't they shafted the Wolves enough recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Caldersson Posted April 19, 2018 Author Share Posted April 19, 2018 Uhh if this is a release of Russ+new Primaris or 13th company than it is Black Legion that is feeding fodder for the wolves. Primarchs are leading forces in devastating attacks against the opposing side unless another primarch intervenes, as it should be. So if Russ is leading an attack in the story I doubt even Abaddon can contend. Might lead up to Lorgar taking over the BL... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Bearclaw Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Nah, I can totally see GW doing Yarant 2.0 on us (and wasn't Abby commanding there too, and look what happened to Russ ). Plus a Black Legion box will mean they'll also be getting new shiny models (no way would they bundle the ancient CSM plastics in with the new hotness), so no plot armour there... While I'd absolutely love them to kill off Abby (although Huron, not Lorgar should take over, Huron is best Chaos special character ), I'm more likely to win the lottery then GW are to actually do that. After all, if they were planning to kill Abby off why bother with all the 'just as planned' retcons, plus ADB wouldn't be writing a long form love letter to the character. But then I'm a massive pessimist when it comes to GW doing things I like these days (and Abby is my most hated character in 40k)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Nah, I can totally see GW doing Yarant 2.0 on us (and wasn't Abby commanding there too, and look what happened to Russ ). Plus a Black Legion box will mean they'll also be getting new shiny models (no way would they bundle the ancient CSM plastics in with the new hotness), so no plot armour there... While I'd absolutely love them to kill off Abby (although Huron, not Lorgar should take over, Huron is best Chaos special character ), I'm more likely to win the lottery then GW are to actually do that. After all, if they were planning to kill Abby off why bother with all the 'just as planned' retcons, plus ADB wouldn't be writing a long form love letter to the character. But then I'm a massive pessimist when it comes to GW doing things I like these days (and Abby is my most hated character in 40k)... Russ did nothing but lay in a coma at Yarant. All his injuries were inflicted by Horus from the novel “Wolfsbane” All Abby did at Yarant is fail to kill an outnumbered, outgunned and generally already up the creek opponent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Bearclaw Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Russ did nothing but lay in a coma at Yarant. All his injuries were inflicted by Horus from the novel “Wolfsbane” All Abby did at Yarant is fail to kill an outnumbered, outgunned and generally already up the creek opponent Fair enough, thought they were the same thing (so Russ goes after Horus at Yarant gets his wrecked, big H has more important stuff to do so leaves Abby to fight the Wolves, Wolves take stupid heavy casualties, then are saved by Corax, because the Wolves can't do anything without help in HH), not 2 separate events, my bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantay VI Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Spoilered under Kaspers advice :) Hidden Content In Wlfsbane, Russ leads the legion against the combined traitor forces in a near suicdal strie to get to Russ aboard the Vengeful Spirit. Russ wounds Horus using the spear of the Emperor,nearly kills him even, but in return is badly injured himself. Russ orders the retreat and the fleet break and scatter. While Russ is being tended to, he slips from conciousness aboard the flagship. Several Jarls are on board and scattered amongst the fleet. They convene a meeting and decide to set up at Yarant to have a last stand, as Yarant could prove a strategic point from which to fight from. Whle being healed Horus orders Abaddon to go after the 6th Legion and to take the Alphas Legion with him (I assume he takes some others also). Next step in the story is of Yarant itself where the Wolves fight hard and prepare to make a last stand. Corax making for the great muster at Beta Garmon comes across the Wolves.. He decides now is a god time t unleash his mutant Raven Guard n the traitors to allow the a chance of vengeance before they slide too far into mutation. Corax and his legion, supported by the Wolves take the fight to the traitors and they break out. Heavy casualties were sustained on both sides. Beta Garmon is the last throw of the dice before the siege of Terra, so we are getting close to the end-game... Interesting to see where the Wolves end up and how they meet with the Lion before travelling for Terra. Anyways that was way off topic... Russ will come back in rune encrusted lether ceremonial armour, much like that worn by the Jarls at the beginning of Wolfsbane when the Einherjar aboard the Hrafknel meet with Loken to discuss Horus and the episode which occurred aboard the Vengeful Spirit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper_Hawser Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Thanks for the info, although I think you might wanna put spoiler tags on it. I thought Wolfsbane wasn't out yet though. sadly yet another case of the wolves can't WIN anything without outside help. Edited: @ Dantay IV, Removed your spoiler in MY post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantay VI Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Technically, in Wolfsbane Hidden Content The Wolves do win, although it is a pyrrhic victory as so much of th legion is lost. Russ achieved what he set out to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krakendoomcool Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Looking forward to Wolfsbane. Sounds great, @ Kasper_Hawser You might want to use spoiler tags when quoting Dantay VI’s spoiler. Ha! ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Caldersson Posted April 20, 2018 Author Share Posted April 20, 2018 The wolves are fish out of water during HH. Their tactic is small contained warfare due how they work autonomously via the 13 companies. Its like 13 daggers stabbing away at the limbs and weakening point of an enemy, weakening the main force before they merge and take bite down on the enemies throat. When it comes to large scale war they lack the numbers due to their smaller size and Prospero reducing it further, they are not as coordinated over large areas as other legions, they can't perform their rapid surprise attacks as their enemy knows they are coming. The scouring where the wolves can contain and destroy small pockets of traitors and then regroup is when they shine. Back on subject: I don't think Russ will return in leather ceremonial armor, it doesn't make sense why he would wear ceremonial armor in a fight. I see him wearing black armor (could be DAoT armor as I don't think he had any like other primarchs during HH) and torn leather cloaks about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper_Hawser Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Looking forward to Wolfsbane. Sounds great, @ Kasper_Hawser You might want to use spoiler tags when quoting Dantay VI’s spoiler. Ha! ;-) Noted and have deleted it, for some reason I couldn't add spoiler tag in the quote part. Whatever armour he has, hopefully it is more tasty than that gaudy one Papa G has. Or at least, a better pose than the splayed out legs. He could come back half naked for all I care, just make sure he isn't Wulfen, and that he actually looks ferocious and ready to tear out your throat, just like his HH version. Then again, silent and contemplative Russ probably won't be too bad. Like a Conan the Barbarian brooding on a throne kind of look, clad in archaic armour and furs.... .... nah, that might make a fine centrepiece, but not a mini you bring to battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Jober Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Hi Brothers! I'm really interested in this thread, I don't collect SW but I love Space Marines, so I'm really happy with the (possible) Russ' return. I think I read somewhere the Russ' box will contain two models similar to the dark elves (Morarthi?), but here there are no post about that... Thoughts? Two versions of Russ? Russ and another character? I think Wolf Time is coming, so Russ could come back. I m not a SW fan so maybe I missed some news. 13th Company members were appearing in the galaxy and SW were rescuing them, isn't it? But I think 13th Company was lost before Russ started his travel... so maybe there is not a real conection between events. Or he could come back leading the 13thCO... About the armour... well... I think he will wear a powerarmour, and not a black one. It is not necessary to match with the actual SW schemes... maybe he returns like an older and wiser man, and he will found more "fenrisian" chapters (SW and Primaris chapters), so maybe he could try to create a Legion. RG is trying to reassemble the UM legion at least in command (UM successors under Calgar's command in Ultramar) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Caldersson Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 The 13th was lost at Prospero (confirmed in Ashes of Prospero). As for black, it is the color of the Speaker of the Dead and Wolf Priests. So it is a color we use and usually Wolf Priests are the wisest of the bunch. The issue with "SW scheme" is that there is 2 of them, one grey from Russ's time and the other baby blue from 40k. AFAIK and what we have been told SW are still restricted from recruiting from the Fenris system due to the Wolf Brothers incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Jober Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Well... if Abbadon is going to return with the Black Legion (rumours say it could be close to SW) I think GW will try to avoid the black armour. Baby blue and grey are both valids or even any metal colour... we dont know where and how they forged it. Well. The primaris seem to be recruited during the Great Crusade so they could be fenrisian. But I think first SW before finding Russ were from Terra and selected from different regions because they were searching brutal men. I think original primaris are not made like the normarines, directly made from modified geneseed and organs. For example, BA's primaris are "standar" primaris with no blood rites in their process. Maybe SW primaris are free from the Canix Hellix (not sure if that was the name) process and effects. EDIT: Sorry, posting about fluff in English is a real challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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