Wolf Lord Loki Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 I love the lore of the thousand sons and I've often thought of collecting a force. Unfortunately next Friday the force is coming to collect me... I have yet to face 40k primarchs and I know my opponent will have magnus. Its part of a league so my army won't be changeable to face him. This time I shall need 'tactics' How does one face a being like Magnus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Well to talk tactics we need to know the options. So unless you want something generic as "shoot him to death real quick" how about posting your army so we have something to work with? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Lord Loki Posted April 15, 2018 Author Share Posted April 15, 2018 Your wish is my command! Lol Death guard: Lord of chaos Necrosis Fowl blightspawn Plague marine 7 plasma2 sarge with plasma, powerfists and plague sword Plague marines 7 blight launchers, flails sarge with plasma, powerfists and plague sword Rhino Poxwalkers 20 Plague burst crawler Helbrute scourge/ melta Helbrute 2fists Daemon Prince wings, warlord and supporating plate Bloat drone Great blight drone Spawn I had a battalion and outriders detachment making the magical 7 command points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Rust Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 its going to be rough for you in the psychic phase remember smite MUST target the closest unit, so use your poxwalkers as a screen for more important dudes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Lord Loki Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 Any other advice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Poxwalkers are trash without typhus, consider dropping them for cultists or something else. Necrosius is good enough and his pox buff minor enough that their absence shouldn't affect his viability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Lord Loki Posted April 19, 2018 Author Share Posted April 19, 2018 Poxwalkers are trash without typhus, consider dropping them for cultists or something else. Necrosius is good enough and his pox buff minor enough that their absence shouldn't affect his viability I won't be able to change my list as its part of an ongoing league. Would you recommend castle-ing up and waiting for him to come to me or take the fight to him? Ignore magnus and kill troops? Or focus on magnus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 I don't have great advice for you, but as someone with both armies I can give you some mediocre advice! Firstly, I don't know if I rate Poxwalkers that poorly without Typhus. I typically play them and depending on my opponent, I will keep Typhus with them, or deep striking with something else. Poxwalkers are annoying to shoot at, and you will never lose command points keeping the last 1-5 alive because you need an objective. 5++ against mortals is something that you will absolutely want against Thousand Sons. Without Typhus you still have those two pluses in your back pocket. (Really Typhus' absence can be mitigated a bit with a Plaguecaster if you really want). Believe it or not that Foul Blightspawn could do some real work for you. He can actually put a real hurt on Magnus who will be looking to get into CC with you. Keep the Blightspawn protected from limited fire power/smite spam with Poxwalkers if you can. Although not a 100% certainty, you will likely see heavy character based Thousand Sons insulated by space goats, and therefore (quite often) having a lack of long distance fire power. Your PBC (or multitudes of) are pretty handy here. Time things right, make sure you use the Foul Blightspawns secodary ability, and you can guarantee you'll have an opportunity to have your poxwalkers turn goats into disgruntled postal workers. If you can insulate and weather the Psychic storm, what I do see you having an issue with is bringing enough in counter assault phase. You'll be counting on your solo DP quite a bit for this. He'll typically only get one shot at it. Make sure you let us know how it goes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azekai Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Poxwalkers are trash without typhus, consider dropping them for cultists or something else. Necrosius is good enough and his pox buff minor enough that their absence shouldn't affect his viability lol wut. As far as smite-blockers go, the zombies are great. The shrug off mortal wounds on a 5+ and will never break and run. In this context, they are perfectly fine. I would be more concerned with those two helbrutes in your army. Hopefully Prot is right and the TSons lack the big guns to blow them off the table... but I doubt they will be much more than speedbumps to the Daemon Primarch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Lord Loki Posted April 19, 2018 Author Share Posted April 19, 2018 Thanks Prot. My plan was to advance t1 and then hit his rank and file hard around t2. I'm working on the premise he won't be expecting me to lurch drunkenly towards him and to ignore magnus during the early parts of the game. Hopefully I can take down some of the supporting sorcerers and then isolate magnus before hitting him with everything Ive got Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Plaguebearers do way more work for one more point per model than poxwalkers. Faster, stronger, tougher, more resilient, harder to shoot past 20. Like you're dedicating all of necrosius' psychic phase to making the pox equivalent... Or cultists for 2 less, if the only reason is screening. Who cares if some more run if they eat a super smite instead of your more important stuff? On the whole there's better options for 20+ dude squads for league play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Lord Loki Posted April 19, 2018 Author Share Posted April 19, 2018 Oh I don't disagree. I'm currently building a daemon force to accompany my death guard and then I probably won't use my pox walker. But the list is now fixed and I'm trying to make the best of it. I have a variety of foes coming up so I wanted a balanced list. Poxwalkers make a good shielding unit. I've lost my plague marines to bad leadership roles so the face they can take a beating and not run works for me. The list building is over. The question is how best to use that list against thousand sons. ASEKAI - if magnus gets the drop he will probably kill them. Is it worth trying to arrange it so I charge him or simply point the Brutes at some rubrics that need a lesson in manners? A friend of mine suggests just play to the objectives and do not deviate at all costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azekai Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 ASEKAI - if magnus gets the drop he will probably kill them. Is it worth trying to arrange it so I charge him or simply point the Brutes at some rubrics that need a lesson in manners? A friend of mine suggests just play to the objectives and do not deviate at all costs. Getting the charge off with the fist brute is pretty critical for him to contribute to the game. Screen him and advance... he can do some damage if he gets the charge off, but outmaneuvering Magnus is going to be really hard. That said, ol' one eye can't be everywhere. I agree with your friend. You have a nice standard 'fun' list with a little bit of everything... the sort of list a Primarch often craps all over, unfortunately. Stalling and playing objectives is your best bet. Necrosius is a godsend in this situation- the more denial attempts you can make, the better. Try to keep the Undying alive as long as humanly possible. Also, if there are any second story ruins, camp on them :P I wish I was kidding but per the new FAQ Primarchs can't walk upstairs (he can still smite you though, but that is what Necrosius is for). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Be careful with the objective placement in ruins. While he may not be able to 'walk' up stairs, units with Fly can land on floors, and take off from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 UNless he fills the level, then magnus is stuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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