I said last time I posted here that GW was going to either slightly buff Smite to compensate for the change or leave it alone. Looks like I got it right, woo!
GW Facebook page confirmed that Shunting and GoI do not count with the beta rules, so you still have that. The goal with the DS beta change is to slow down games (most games were decided around turn 3) and prevent alpha strikes, which can be a problem (hiding units off the board keeps them alive and hit hard coming in). However, just like with smite, GKs also kind of need to have the alpha strike advantage going into a fight because of their small numbers. There's a good chance that GK will either be exempt from this rule as well OR other models will get buffed to compensate (NDK getting some form of Shunt again). You can mark me down for that.
I think one thing that is often overlooked are the other things that you get that will help out. The changes to Battalions and Brigades helps GK more than other armies. It's not going to help a guard player that he has a few extra CP because his CP are not as valuable as GK are, for example.
The DS change effects everyone, and really all it does is slow the game down. Besides, how were you handling armies that had screening units anyway? Wouldn't the deepstrike change offer the same outcome?
The rule of three helps too. GK were not really spamming more than three units in most lists, and it hinders other armies to a greater degree.
The soup list change also helps GKs, and Assassins are easier to take.
I agree that GK should probably be exempt from the deepstrike change or otherwise buffed to compensate if it does go through. I hardly think it is the end of the world for them. Now is the time to test the beta rules and offer constructive feedback. You can roll over on your back if you want, but they can't hear you if you don't say anything.
Sorry, but you got it wrong. We still got nerfed in the smite change, only the BoP units remain unchanged, NDK/Dreads/every character still retains the new nerfed version of smite, while only dealing 1 damage.
GK have not received any fixes at all since their release in the index. All the evidence suggests that they won't fix any units to compensate from this change (they still haven't fixed a blatant point mistake from the codex) - and if the change is just "this army is exempt", why didn't they do that alongside the GSC exemption?
The Battalion and Brigade does not help GK that much. Strikes are far less useful, so to get a brigade we need to take a weaker choice to fill the troop requirements. Secondly, we have very few useful stratagems that are also overpriced, +2 CP means one more stratagem. Lastly, GK can only field a Battalion detachment at around 1900 points, using min squads of everything, leaves very little room for options or any decent units. It just isn't something GK can feasibly field.
The deepstirke change effects everyone, but it effects some far more than others. It's like taking a dollar off a poor person and then saying it equally effects the rich. How did we deal with screening before? We would deepstrike and shoot it, and then take a turn of fire because there was nothing to charge, waiting for the second turn before we could actually get a chance at getting into CC against anyone that knows the basics of 40k. Now, it will be on the third turn before we get into CC with a screening army, and we have to survive two/three rounds of being shot at before we can deal with good armour save/high toughness models. Other armies still have decent shooting, so they can shoot from their side of the board and clear a gap for them to DS + charge on the second turn. Almost all our weapons are limited to 24", with overpriced dreadnoughts/landraiders/razorbacks as our long range fire option. We don't have cheap access to rerolls like SM, but we cost the same amount as they do.
... but again, it's another person telling us how we should leave feed back, when we've been doing it with nothing to show for it.
Oh, but they changed the Smite rule for you based on feedback
That feedback was literally everyone with half a brain face palming at how GW didn't see the issue with it already. If that change went through with no adjustments, GW just nerfed GK and TS far more than anyone else, they already have a weak smite. Why do we need to point this out to GW? Do they not play their own game? Even still, they nerfed GK with it by not linking it to RoB but to BoP.
So many people that don't play GK, and have zero understanding of how it plays.