Found my old army, blood ravens collection help

[spafe]

Hi guys, I rarely stray outside of the guard and chaos forums, but I recently discovered my old blood ravens army that I put together back... ooo when DoW 1 came out, no idea how long ago that was. It was a fairly mixed list, and I think I played a handful of games with them then they got packed away.

 

I was wondering if you good power armoured chaps could help a simple flak wearer with bringing my up to speed. I am curently in two minds, whether to sell them to clear out space, or do a few minimal changes (that I'm sure will be needed), to bring them up to a fun list for 8th. I've not got the marine dex, so exact stuff there's no point telling me yet, but general terms of x load out is crap now, relaly need to change for y, or character z cannot be used as is etc is what I'm after (or more worriyingly, scrap that collection, it doesnt gel together).

 

Here's a run down of my list:

chaplain with jump pack

Captain on bike with power sword and shield (shield work as a buckler on the sword arm so he still has a hand to ride)

 

10 scouts, 2 with shotguns, rest with ccw pistols

10 marines, meltagun and heavy bolter, stock sarge

 

10 assault marines, sarge has a p/fist, boltgun and combat shield, another has a 2 ended chainsword that could be an eviserator.

4 bikes, 2 with plasma guns

attack bike with heavy bolter

 

rhino

 

dread with assault cannon and fist

5 termies with assault cannon

5 sternguard, sarge with p/maul

 

Thanks for the help!

 

[Panzer]

It actually looks pretty decent for casual games. I wouldn't take half of it to tournaments tho. ^^

[Michaelum]

Rhinoss are way too expensive now, i have yet to see one on tables this edition. The attack bike is not going to do much and can´t use the stratagem for heavy bolters (only infantry can).

 

At least I would get a laser cannon predator to have some decent long range fire.

[spafe]

Thanks, I think the intial idea was the scouts infiltrated and took a tele homer and brought the termies in, the bikes, half the tacs and the assault marines closed quickly, the dred and remaining tacs provided fire support. The sternguard are still WiP so never hit the table, but I think I might have been planning on getting them a razor to transport them.

 

Can the attack bike still join the bikers to lend them another heavy weapon?

[spafe]

Oh, also, is there anyhting there that would make a nice addition to my guard army (currently very troop heavy although I do have a lot of tanks coming out of storage soon that need a repaint). 

 

Maybe the dred, tac and assault squad to provide some heavier inf to my guard, or are they not overlly impressive on their own?

[Race Bannon]

Concerning adding Space Marines to Guard: Sure, why not? 

 

Squeeze them in, play a game or two and let us know how it work :tu:

[Dracos]

I think it's a good base of models.  "As is" you might want to try out the Dark Angel, White Scar or Salamander rules for that collection. 

[Rogue]

Rhinoss are way too expensive now, i have yet to see one on tables this edition.

Interesting. I use a couple in my 1500 list, armed with a pair of storm bolters (so eight shots up close), both carrying a ten-man tactical squad - the rhino adds protection, mobility and almost a combat squad’s worth of extra fire-power. I find them useful, particularly as much of the rest of the list is shooty stuff.

 

So I wouldn’t write the rhino off straight away...

[Panzer]

Rhinos are fine and so are Attack Bikes. Enemies often ignore them since they're single-model units now. You can't use the Heavy Bolter Stratagem, that's true, and I'd probably take a Melta or something instead but it's not like the Heavy Bolter is crap either.

[spafe]

I've yet to use any transports in 8th, as my chrimeras havent been repainted yet. I've also not seen them used much as my main enemies use nurgle horde, flesh tearer jump army or nids. Will have to have a read up on how best to use them for drive bys!

[spafe]

Okay, some thoughts if you will;

 

I'm considering a outrider and a vanguard detachment, I have a single robed marine (all my sternguard are robed old metal DA vets bodies), who I can build either into a stern sarge, or a luitenant. The logic is my current stern sarge has a storm bolter and a power maul, should he become my lui or should he remain the sarge and built the last model with something more fitting a hq? (if so, what? as a side note, my list below has 10 points remaining to equip him)

 

Outrider:

captian on bike with storm shield, power sword (swapped with relic burning blade, can I do this?)

4 bikers, sarge with chainsword, 2 with plasma guns

heavy bolter attack bike

10 assault marines, sarge with fist and combat shield, one marine with eviserator

 

Vanguard

Lui

5 sternguard, sarge with power maul (see above load out/model question)

dread, assault cannon, fist

5 termies, assault cannon

 

10 points left from 1000.

 

Is this okay?

 

I was going to try and get a battalion but realised I only have 2 troops, so I suppose I would need to split the scouts or invest in another troop choice?

 

I might try and see if I cna get a game against a nid player I know well on the weekend if we decide not to play bloodbowl, so any advice would be great today/tomorrow.

 

Thanks in advance, sorry for the rather scattered approach to my thoughts. I'll also try to upload some pics of my army tomorrow when I have a cable to get the pics off my phone :)

[Wargamer]

Personally, if you're fielding this collection as-is I would field the scouts as two 5-man squads. Not only does this let you cover more of the field to potentially rush objectives, but it also means you have 2-HQs and 3-Troops, letting you field a Battalion for +5 CP.