JadedMask Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [110 PL, 1682pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot + **Chapter Selection**: Black Templars + HQ + Captain in Terminator Armor [7 PL, 141pts]: Storm shield, The Shield Eternal, Thunder hammer . Warlord: Iron Resolve Chaplain [5 PL, 72pts]: Bolt pistol Chaplain in Terminator Armor [7 PL, 102pts]: Storm bolter Lieutenants [4 PL, 60pts] . Lieutenant: Bolt pistol, Chainsword + Troops + Crusader Squad [12 PL, 122pts]: 2x Neophyte w/Shotgun . 3x Initiate w/Chainsword . Initiate w/Heavy Weapon: Power axe . Initiate w/Special Weapon: Plasma gun . Sword Brother: Boltgun, Power sword Crusader Squad [12 PL, 133pts]: 3x Neophyte w/Combat Knife . 3x Initiate w/Chainsword . Initiate w/Heavy Weapon: Power axe . Initiate w/Special Weapon: Plasma gun . Sword Brother: Boltgun, Power sword Crusader Squad [12 PL, 128pts]: 3x Neophyte w/Combat Knife . 4x Initiate w/Chainsword . Initiate w/Heavy Weapon: Power axe . Sword Brother: 2x Lightning Claw Crusader Squad [5 PL, 78pts] . 3x Initiate . Initiate w/Special Weapon: Plasma gun . Sword Brother: Boltgun, Chainsword Crusader Squad [5 PL, 78pts] . 3x Initiate . Initiate w/Special Weapon: Plasma gun . Sword Brother: Boltgun, Chainsword Crusader Squad [5 PL, 78pts] . 3x Initiate . Initiate w/Special Weapon: Plasma gun . Sword Brother: Boltgun, Chainsword + Elites + Terminator Assault Squad [12 PL, 235pts] . Terminator Sergeant . . Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield: Storm shield, Thunder hammer . 4x Terminator w/THSS: 4x Storm shield, 4x Thunder hammer + Heavy Support + Predator [9 PL, 140pts]: Twin lascannon + Flyer + Stormraven Gunship [15 PL, 315pts]: Twin assault cannon, Twin heavy bolter, Two Hurricane Bolters, Two Stormstrike Missile Launchers ++ Auxiliary Support Detachment -1CP (Imperium - FW Adeptus Astartes) [16 PL, 318pts] ++ + Heavy Support + Relic Leviathan Dreadnought [16 PL, 318pts]: 2x Heavy flamer . Leviathan siege drill: Meltagun . Leviathan siege drill: Meltagun ++ Total: [126 PL, 2000pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe I've been working on this list for a little bit, the captain runs with the Marine blob, as does the normal chap and leuitenant. The termies, chap termi and dread all take the stormraven into the heart of enemy lines to turn 2 delete any big threats. I've ran a version of this with a smaller troop base hidden in rhinos and the troops just didn't do very much, I'm also thinking of a version where I take a barebones Dev squad instead of the pred, take a chapter ancient to avoid morale and boost the troop base with a little post mortem damage with the emperor banner, but that would give away all my non-airborne anti-tank. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aothaine Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 You're running a battalion so I don't think you need the aux support penalty for the relic levaithan dreadnought. The main problem you're going to run into is that you need to spread the threat out. Your foot marines are going to provide support and objective control but very little threat. The opponent will then take out the storm raven turn one most likely. Then focus the predator down. When list building you should really focus on redundancy. If you are fielding big units this becomes difficult to do. If you want to field the dreadnought I would build the list in a way to support it first. It just looks like you're doing too many things at once here. Take your crusader squads down to three and increase their number. Honestly, I would just run three max size crusader squads with the Relic Dreadnought and maybe 2 other dreadnoughts with twin lascannon and dread CCW. Stormravens are really good. But taking one loaded with what you're planning is going to be a risky play. If you're opponent takes it out on the first turn than the most punchy units of your army are going to be left out of most of the battle. Setup the crusader squads with the initiates being ranged and the neophytes being setup for close combat and add in like 1 powerfist or thunder hammer. Lose the initiates first as you move up the board and charge with your neophytes that are geared out for close combat. The Leviathan is going to soak a TON of fire. Be ready to lose it fast and understand that by doing so it frees up the rest of your army for a turn. If you can run two Levi's that would be ideal but you would need a spearhead detachment for that. I'm not too familiar with Black Templar list building.. but I hope my suggestions help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Your plan is also against the rules. The Spring FAQ nerfed the Stormraven's ability to transport Leviathan Dreadnoughts. The Raven can now only transport dreadnoughts with a wound number less than the Redemptor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadedMask Posted May 28, 2018 Author Share Posted May 28, 2018 Thanks for the Responses guys, I've done a bit of an overhaul to my list building in General, I'm actually going to make a new post about that right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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