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How do you see 40K in the (near) future?


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With the upcoming codexes this year (soon: imperial knights, Grey wolves, later this year: Orks and eventually slanesh ), we can say that everything is pretty much covered in V8, except Sisters of battle planed (and officially announced) next year. That was fast!

 

So, in the GW company point of view (economically), you have to develop something with 40K, its giant cash cow.

 

What do you think guys that should be a nice development on our side, the hobbiists/players?

 

1. developping new armies/codexes ?

 

2. adding deepness to existing armies/codexes: lets take an example: Ad Mech. I like this army but no transport, no fast troops and really few list entries/possibilities. Same problem for many SM subfactions...

 

3. making FW migration to  GW  more ....heummmm....existing? (officially I mean)

 

4. <YOUR IDEA HERE>

 

Why am I asking?

Well, curiosity maybe, players point of view but also one thing that is important to me: time. Read: life time, the time of our existence. I'm a returning player after 2 decades of nothing. I've plaid a lot  of games, spent tons of hours in video games. And after all those years, what does remain: my mini games. I took my beloved miniatures out of some old carton boxes and the nostalgia was soon erased by the great feeling of hobby+player again. And after all those years, few armies are still interesting to play: the ones that are not niches, the ones that offer the biggest richness of strategies/list building : there are SM, Eldars, chaos (general ones) and probably orcs. Be aware that I don't mean COMPETITIVE here because in this LONG period of time, there were so many releases, adjustment, meta etc... I mean ENJOYING the games, playing.

 

Whereas I like to get some mini I like, I always ask myself: will it be a long term unit?

 

 

 



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Shockingly Black Templars. ;)
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Shockingly Black Templars. msn-wink.gif


A crusading dorn leading template who now have repulsors sheild cqc, and tempestus weapons from the fang.

 

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I see GW pushing out a variety of species and allied races and lesser factions through kill team/rogue trader.

 

 

Kroot:

-Get rid of all the kits.

-replace them with a single plastic kit.

Rogue trader Kroot box contains:10 models

- 1 kroot ox ( krootox + rider )

- 2 kroot hounds

- 5 kroots

- 1 kroot shaper/squad leader

 

 

Gw follows the 10 model box kits

 

Rakgol

-9 models

-1 leader

Allied Tau species

- 1 nicarsar

- 3 tallerians

- lesser species

Arbites

-8 arbites

- 1 cyber hound

-1 leader

imperial gaurds

exodites

weird nids

Ork clans

 

 

and so on.

 

These boxes will contains rules for 40k, necromunda, rogue trader/kill team

We may even see roll outs of mini dex's for these boxes, every 2 boxes (kroot and tau aliies) ( Rak'Gol and the bat things from the ghost zones)

Themed releases, unknown frontiers, parnormal monsters, the hunger, and so on

 

This allows GW to have mutliuse boxes, that also fulfill the desires of the community for more variety.

 

Atthe same time, fading out of the old marines armored equipment due to the adge of the mold. within the next codex for space marines ( the main dex) we could see old marines gaining access to the primaris armor, and having rule sets for legacy equipment as it is phased out of production


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Whereas I like to get some mini I like, I always ask myself: will it be a long term unit?

 

You can still use most of your first edition models in current 40k. They just look smaller. 

 

40k has calmed down a lot since 2nd ed, and hasnt really canged in terms of models or loadouts since 3rd. I think it's safe to say the 'template' for most current armies is here to stay.



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....Reset the clock ;)

 

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Well GW said they have lots of stuff planned so the 40k community doesn't have to wait for months between releases for them anymore like in the past.

EC with Slaanesh stuff and WE with Khorne stuff is probably among the most obvious things we can expect in near future. Together with more Primaris stuff of course. Aside from that it's everybodys guess. New armies as well as fleshing out existing armies (different Space Marine chapters maybe?) are all very possible.


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New plastic imperial guard infantry please.  Imeprial guard needs new updated plastic regular infantry so bad. Either a whole new regiment or new updated cadians would be fine, just please do something so we can move on from the ugliness we have now.


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My guess is that we’ll see more sub-faction “mini-Dex” releases in the vein of Death Guard and most of the AoS releases. Sometimes they’ll flesh out existing factions in a new and focused way, and sometimes they’ll be new or practically new (Yinnari come to mind). I expect we’ll see a lot of focus on Primarchs, too, with 1 - 2 a year for the foreseeable future in order to keep up hype.

Plus, yes,, Squats. Yeah, yeah, clocks and whatever, but they’re finally doing plastic Sisters, so I think we’re in the realm of the impossible.
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I’d like to see some more depth to the story but it’s early days still and I’m sure it will happen. What I’m really hoping for is the complete replacement of all finecast products in the range. It’s a big ask but with almost all codexes done within a year, I think that this is GWs best opportunity to do it.

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New plastic imperial guard infantry please.  Imeprial guard needs new updated plastic regular infantry so bad. Either a whole new regiment or new updated cadians would be fine, just please do something so we can move on from the ugliness we have now.

I'd love to see improved tech imperial guard roll out. a mix of elysian and primaris tech


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Yeah that would be cool, targeting visors and improved lasguns to choose from.  Like the variant van saar las weapons.

 

Also along the same lines, special scions units with exotic gear like grav guns.  Also better non-lame fluff on the scholoa progenium/scion training regime.


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I think that we are going to see less Codex replacements and more Campaign Books, where you get rules and datasheets for things, along with battle templates, etc., and then new Codexes collecting everything every few years, but you’ll have already been playing with most of it in the intervening time frame.

They can easily use this to introduce a few new units to several factions involved in the campaign without having to completely overhaul those Codexes to include them, and since slimmed down datasheets can be included in the boxes, you don’t necessarily even have to carry all the campaign books. I think this is how we’ll see new Primaris units especially, but new Guard regiments wouldn’t be out of the question. Totally new armies will probably still get a new Codex at launch.
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Really hoping for a complete overhaul of khorne / WE stuff especially bezerkers. Would like to see some more units added too, butcher horde would be awesome. EC overhaul would be nice also, gw need to catch up with a lot of 3rd party quality / variety that is out there. Also praying they release a new oblis/mutilators kit, i think its one reason people dont feild more of them lol
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1- New models for old units, like new Imperial Guard infantry, plastic Aspect Warriors, etc.
2- Campaign Books full of lore, missions, unique rules and scenarios. These will also likely include a small section of brand new models for big releases such as new Primarchs.
3- Smaller side codices. T'au Allies, Angels of Death esque supplement for Marines, etc.
4- Second edition/re-releases of codices in this edition for factions with new units that will also include tweaks to current rulesets.


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The way they’re pushing AoS at the moment we will probably see those armies transplanted into 40k soon :)

Seriously though, I think what others have said is correct. More sub-faction releases for the various forces.

It’d be nice to get some updated rules for Templars but I think that’s a long way off. At Warhammer fest some of the designers were talking about the direction of Primaris marines.

They weren’t givin anything away obviously but they did say there will be a Primaris unit to fill every role. I don’t mean in terms of fast attack, heavy support etc (although they’ll obviously fall into one of those categories) but they’ll have a CC unit specialised in taking on numerous but lightly armed infantry and another CC unit to take on the bigger, tougher things. Basically more specialised units rather than direct Primaris copies of the more flexible units normal marines get. Nothing we didn’t already assume to be honest but it was good to hear them confirm it.

Outside of marines I would also like updated guard kits.

In terms of kits in general, I would like to see them redesign a lot of the kits. They’re all based on the weapon options you could equip in previous editions which is changed somewhat for many forces.
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I think Space Marines need love. Not Primaris, :cuss those, but REAL Space Marines. GW should commit to them. They need a Codex rewrite that brings Chapter Tactics and Strategems into line with the modern options. Abandoning the new lore would also be a good idea.

In line with this, give us a Primaris Codex. Make them stand alone armies.
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I think Space Marines need love. Not Primaris, censored.gif those, but REAL Space Marines. GW should commit to them. They need a Codex rewrite that brings Chapter Tactics and Strategems into line with the modern options. Abandoning the new lore would also be a good idea.

In line with this, give us a Primaris Codex. Make them stand alone armies.


GW need to start refreshing Tac boxes etc with the same sculpts they've been using for the Japan exclusive Space Marine Heroes line. They obviously have the digital models ( and probably designs for multipart kits done already ) -- its frustrating that you can't get proportional oldmarines outside of that line and the Deathwatch Kill Teams..

Other than that -- they need to stop with the Imperial stuff -- the game needs opponents that aren't other guys in the power armor. A push to add a variety of races and refresh those that exist would help the game a lot I think.
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I think Space Marines need love. Not Primaris, :cuss those, but REAL Space Marines. GW should commit to them. They need a Codex rewrite that brings Chapter Tactics and Strategems into line with the modern options. Abandoning the new lore would also be a good idea.

In line with this, give us a Primaris Codex. Make them stand alone armies.

I think that we have to be more realistic than that. GW committed to “real Marines” (which Primaris are—they use the exact same steps to make them, and just add the three extra organs in during the process, still takes the same 4-5 years development) for two and a half decades, there really isn’t a lot of new design room for them any more, and the design space they tried to give themselves had just as much vocal backlash and animosity as Primaris create now. So if they are going to get the limited view hate, they might as well make biggerized Marines with wide open design space.

Now, Tactics and Stratagems, that is doable, but you don’t need a new Codex for that—you just include them in a campaign set. Gives you much more freedom to even tailor some for the campaign and others for universal use.

Primaris already compose stand-alone armies in the current Codex, so a separate Codex is unlikely.
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More of the same. Models and words that can be more easily defended on the intellectual property front.

For chaos and eldar factions, I see new lines being less “generic” and more focused.

I also anticipate more “experimental” rules. Not so much like how they have been done in the past, but more applicable to a wider range of units then updated on the six month timeframe.

I’m not expecting subscriptions or more digital content exclusives.

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It sounds like you guys all want a return to 6th edition with its warzones and data sheets. I respect you, brothers, but I think that's frankly insane. Do you remember supplements? I do. Oh BOY do I not miss those.

I have no idea what shape 40k will take as the year goes on. But the past 12 months have offered nothing but happy surprises, so I look forward to the future.
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Primaris already compose stand-alone armies in the current Codex, so a separate Codex is unlikely.

 

 

 

But they really need some more options, especially cheap transport, fast attack (bike/jetbike etc...)



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An ultramarines codex please.

Would like a real shakeup to the i go you go. Maybe you activate a unit then your opponent does.

Would like to see GW take more of an interest on the digital side of things. To many poor 40k pc games. Would really like a few more decent 40k pc games.
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A vocal minority of GW-lickers will praise everything the company does to high heaven.

 

A vocal minority of miserabilists will spread FUD about everything GW does, Abe Simpson yelling at clouds style.

 

The majority who belong to neither faction will get by as always, having fun games and painting/converting nice models.

 

Funnily enough, this future looks just like the past 15 years I've been involved in the hobby...


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