Bmseifer Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Just a quick question. In the box with the heavy weapons squads you can build 6 weapons (3 with tripods and 3 with bipods) but you only get gunners for 3 bases. I was thinking to save some money I could use 1 gunner and a regular infantry guardsmen on the base to be able to get 6 teams out of one box. Anyone done the same and have pictures on how it looks? Or am I to cheap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mertbl Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 That's what I do. No loaders at all. Gun is loaded. Guy #2 needs to be shooting his lasgun. Lol. Cheap? Maybe but this is expensive. I like to think of it as being resourceful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Lots of people do this, only the gunner needs to kneel. Not even that if you're making Missile Launchers! Bases are easy to come by, GW sells them pretty cheap - go forth and multiply :tu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmseifer Posted May 26, 2018 Author Share Posted May 26, 2018 Well I have 4 boxes to build atm. Would be great to get 24 teams instead of 12. And knowing GW they will most probably nerf the ones I build so it will feel good to have alternatives :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halfpint100 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 I don't glue the tripod gun in and line up the gunner so the gun can be dry fitted in, then I have all the options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmseifer Posted May 26, 2018 Author Share Posted May 26, 2018 I don't glue the tripod gun in and line up the gunner so the gun can be dry fitted in, then I have all the options What do you do with the shield that's attached to the guns? keep it dry fitted to or just leave it out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinstryfe Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 I don't glue the tripod gun in and line up the gunner so the gun can be dry fitted in, then I have all the options What do you do with the shield that's attached to the guns? keep it dry fitted to or just leave it out? I've done the exact same thing, and I just attach the shield to whatever and run some with shields and some without. I barely even notice when they're there or not anymore. You could leave them all off or try to get more from bits sellers if you wanted to be a little more uniform, or I'm sure there's a way to either pin or magnetize it to keep it moveable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LameBeard Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Yeah, I had standing 'loaders' and a scavenged extra tripods. Not only to save money, but also to make the squads a bit more individual. Like @Kinstryfe, I didn't miss the shields, at least not on the lascannon, because it looked like this one. Check out Anvil Industry for heavy weapon options - loads of good ones - but they sell 3 tripods for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treadhead Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Actually you can get more out of the box, if you use the sand bag in the kit for one of the tripod mounted guns, On top of which I think that the cities of death balcony railings might work ok for a standing figure to use as a rest (haven't tried this one but seem to remember seeing a pic of it once upon a time) So to sum up: missile launchers shoulder mounted, auto cannon on the sandbags, las cannon on the tripod, mortar on the bipod and heavy bolter on the railing from cod, all you need is some of the pintle mount gun arms from tanks and some extra infantry bodies to make it work fifteen out of fifteen heavy weapons from a kit meant to make three Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmseifer Posted May 27, 2018 Author Share Posted May 27, 2018 Lots of good advice here. But I'm sure I won't be needing 60 heavy weapon teams :) I think doubling up on them, thus making 24, will suffice. We can still only have 3 Heavy weapons squads and then sprinkle them in infantry, veteran and command squads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mertbl Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Now I can tell you are new to the guard. Lots of good advice here. But I'm sure I won't be needing 60 heavy weapon teams :) I think doubling up on them, thus making 24, will suffice. We can still only have 3 Heavy weapons squads and then sprinkle them in infantry, veteran and command squads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmseifer Posted May 27, 2018 Author Share Posted May 27, 2018 Well.. I am :) But if we max out on number of heavy weapons squads as per the 'rule of three' at 2k pts, then I would need to run 15 infantry squads to use all of my heavy weapon teams. Atm I'm planning on using 6-8 squads which would still leave me room for choice of weapons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mertbl Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 A thing to remember is the rule of 3 is a suggestion for matched play events. Anything less than a formal event, talk to your opponent and spam away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmseifer Posted May 27, 2018 Author Share Posted May 27, 2018 Well technically it isn't even for matched play rules, It's for tournament events. But it is a rule that our group has adopted, and I kind of like it. The one thing I wish was excluded are our company commanders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmseifer Posted May 27, 2018 Author Share Posted May 27, 2018 Ok, so have built the first 12 teams Will have to order more bases and then I will make another 3 mortars, 3 lascannons, 3 autocannons and 3 heavy bolters. And then I will also have to model a second guardsman to the bases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Industrious! Keep us updated on your progress :tu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmseifer Posted May 27, 2018 Author Share Posted May 27, 2018 Well, it may take a while. This was just a side track from the ETL. So tonight it's time to pick up the brushes and finish that first vow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr4Minutes Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Looks good! I also used the snap fit guardsmen for the loader. Leaving them on their own base works great for a wound counter (take them off to represent the wound) but also leaves you extra bodies to fill squads out if you aren’t taking all your HWT’s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNCenturion Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 The kneeling legs are great on basic trooper squads. I mix in standing “loaders” and kneeling ones on my weapon teams so they all don’t look the same. Additionally, the backpacks you get are good for mechanized squads or veteran squads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akrim Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Just a quick question. In the box with the heavy weapons squads you can build 6 weapons (3 with tripods and 3 with bipods) but you only get gunners for 3 bases. I was thinking to save some money I could use 1 gunner and a regular infantry guardsmen on the base to be able to get 6 teams out of one box. Anyone done the same and have pictures on how it looks? Or am I to cheap? Cheap, economical whatever... I saw an example way back where someone had used spare parts to make a loader without legs but built up sandbags/debris around them to make it look as though they were in a dugout position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wassa Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Thinking about it, if you want to be lazy you don't even need a second guardsman. The heavy weapons team is "one" model with double the stats. 2 wounds, 2 attacks, a heavy weapon and a lasgun. I'm going to build mine with one person each, then later on I can always stick another on. I always thought it was weird that you can "kill" one with one wound, but it doesn't matter as they are combined into one so they both live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrowmaster Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 I've done something similar. Bought an infantry squad box to use for all the spare guns I have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Closet Skeleton Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Well technically it isn't even for matched play rules, It's for tournament events. But it is a rule that our group has adopted, and I kind of like it. The one thing I wish was excluded are our company commanders At least I have a reason to take platoon commanders now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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