New Knights: Your Thoughts?

[THUNDERFISTS]

The new Big Boi Knights were previewed today and they look like the business. Wallets and belts are tight however and I don't want to throw $300 into another army to find it not meshing well.

 

So what are your thoughts on including Knights in with the Guard? Old and new and new new Knights, some kind of mix or anything in between. I can see a couple Battalions supporting/getting supported by a Super Heavy detachment that isn't Baneblade variants. What do you think?

[BLACK BLΠFLY]

When you say Guard do you mean Astra Militarum ?

[MARK0SIAN]

I think it’s impossible to say until you’ve seen the codex and the points cost. As they are currently, I’ve found that Knights are a not a great superheavy support, especially compared to all the stuff Guard can bring for a similar amount of points.

 

At the minute they’re just too expensive for the amount of destruction they can wreak and for how quickly they can die. Guard can bring either plenty of baneblade variants for a similar costs or loads of smaller things like Leman Russ tanks that just offer better value for points imo.

 

Like I said though, everything I just posted applies to knights as they are now. They may be better/cheaper after the codex drops so it’s impossible to say whether they’ll be a good addition until we know more.

[Frostglaive]

All of the Knight discussions are going on in the Adeptus Mechanicus forum here if you want to know more in-depth.

 

That being said, a Battalion Detachment of Imperial Guard would make a good allied force for a group of Knights or the new Dominus-class. However, you'll get better synergy if you run Adeptus Mechanicus instead, seeing as we actually have viable stratagems that we can use on Knights. All depends on what you want: more bodies or more synergy. Both work for Knights.

 

To Markosian, you are absolutely right. Knights as they are right now are too expensive for what they do. Luckily, they're getting a points reduction. The Armigers are expected to drop from 223pts base to 163pts base, Questoris (normal) Knights are expected to drop from 320pts base to 285pts base, as well as a few weapons getting points decreases. And the new Dominus-class will supposedly be around 615-670pts with weapons.