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I'm not sure how particularly new these are but it's the first time I've seen them. Warhammer sets, with revell paints and glue, scenery bits, a mat to display them on, and paintbrush.

Now normally I'd shy away from such a thing but they're going for £17 on Amazon (only crop up every now and then).

The best value is this one:

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so five monopose terminators, a dreadnought and some scenery objective bits for £17!

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Wondering if anyone has bought them and knows more. Are they GW quality? Snap fits? Single pose? Worth the money?

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The miniatures have been in old sets. The terminators are far from modern quality and pose and come with the old bases. I would only buy them if you want to train painting. 


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I'd buy it for the Dreadnought and the objective bitz I guess but the Terminators ... man I don't think I could use them for anything. Maybe I'd throw them into a bitzbox in some LGS.


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The Terminators are 2nd/3rd Ed, and are quite smaller than the current range. The Dread is the Assault on Black Reach one, and is quite manageable to back up and repose.

 

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they do a speeder too iirc.



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I wish I'd got AoBR when it came out - could have got it for £38 at the time. I guess these are actually from that era, seeing as it's Orks and Smurfs.

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I wish I'd got AoBR when it came out - could have got it for £38 at the time. I guess these are actually from that era, seeing as it's Orks and Smurfs.

I worked at GW when it came out so many dreads XD we ended up being limited on how many copies we could buy :D



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I wish I'd got AoBR when it came out - could have got it for £38 at the time. I guess these are actually from that era, seeing as it's Orks and Smurfs.

I bought two boxes, the Terminators aren't nearly as bad as people make out. There's no bling on them as they're generic, so they're easy enough to cut up cleanly if you want to repose them. And you can bling them up nicely to whatever Chapter you want.

 

Same for the Dreads.

 

++ looking closer, those are not AoBR Terminators though, think Grotsmasha's right about them being 3ed  :(


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I wish I'd got AoBR when it came out - could have got it for £38 at the time. I guess these are actually from that era, seeing as it's Orks and Smurfs.

I bought two boxes, the Terminators aren't nearly as bad as people make out. There's no bling on them as they're generic, so they're easy enough to cut up cleanly if you want to repose them. And you can bling them up nicely to whatever Chapter you want.
 
Same for the Dreads.
 
++ looking closer, those are not AoBR Terminators though, think Grotsmasha's right about them being 3ed  :(
. How tall are they?

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Yep, those are definitely 2nd / 3rd Edition metal terminators. I've got a ton of them from my very first Deathwing army. 

As for size, they're not as big as you think. Those pictures are on 25mm bases, and are around the height of a current edition tactical marine (non Primaris). They got scaled-up when the first plastic terminator range was released, and I think the chapter-specific terminators have also been getting slightly bigger over the years too. 


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I've got 3 sets ; the land speeder assault (older speeder without typhoon or tornado options, brush, paints, glue, objectives), the Ork gorkamorka trukk (4 Ork boyz, Gorkamorka trukk, brush, paints, glue) and the terminator assault, as pictured above. Speeder is currently about £12 but I got it more expensive.

 

There are a few more like one with a single SM bike and an AoBR terminator. The terminators in Terminator assault are the older 3rd edition, not AoBR and they are smaller and thinner than the current terminators. That said they don't look too bad on 40 mm bases. They could be useful for people who still have the very old Space Hulk game.

 

These kits were aimed at a European market, which is why we can only get them  on Amazon. If I recall correctly there was a similar reboxing of old kits for the UK market, labelled as 'Battle for Vedros' which were available from Game, the computer game chain. I bought an old Ork wartrakk for £10, which is cheaper than the GW price. Gretchin were the same price as GW, and there was a cut down starter set which had the same artwork as Assault on Black Reach.


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Weirdly searching Amazon for battle for vedros brings up these models too.

Unfortunately I've since found that nobody will ship them to the mainland UK. Perhaps GW have an agreement with them not to.

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. The terminators in Terminator assault are the older 3rd edition, not AoBR and they are smaller and thinner than the current terminators. That said they don't look too bad on 40 mm bases. They could be useful for people who still have the very old Space Hulk game.

When they snap together does the torso rotate freely? If so they actually are the plastic terminators from 2nd ed Space Hulk and I'm surprised they held onto that mould that long.

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Torso and arms can rotate. They first appeared in 2nd edition space hulk. They fit on the tiles better than modern termites.
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The arms and torsos rotate if you don't glue them. Yes it is a very old kit - I'm sure I got a set of 5 of these terminators back in the day.

 

Oddly there were metal terminators of the same generation that were slightly bulkier than the old Rogue Trader terminators.


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I've ordered the Termie set with the dreadnought, £16.95 with p&p. I have some deathwing knights coming anyway, which have dozens of spare bits as they make a few different units, so hopefully I can turn them into something decent. I do already have one AoBR Termie that came free with White Dwarf, and an old metal 2ed one but they're very static and obviously different sized.

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As some other frater have said, those terminators are the 2nd/3rd edition terminators, and I'm guessing the plastic version (I've got 5 of them for years, and I never got to glue them completely, I liked too much to play and repose them).
DBadger, I must advise you that the newer terminator bits might look disproportionately big on these old termies, since they were almost the same size of tactical marines, just a tad bulkier mainly due to the pauldrons. If you do try, please share the results, I'm curious if it is possible to upsize them a bit (although with the years I'm learning to appreciate the older models, so I might eventually get some of them as a homage to old edition minimarines).

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Those Terminators really take me back. Good to know that they still exist.

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What I'm thinking of doing (though I don't have the bits in front of me) is swapping the legs between the two kits, and using the modern arms only. I will also add spellcrow tabards which will bulk them out a bit. I found a size comparison online:

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Besides arms and extras the extra height seems to be in the legs.

DW knights will be fourth edition I presume? I always think of them as "new".

Anyway both orders have shipped now so I can stop speculating soon haha.

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I would also consider a spacer cut into the waist above the belt. Yeah, it's a little bit of work, but trust me they're missing height in the abdomen section as well.


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The text in the link says:

 

"Build+Paint is a series of classic model kits from the epic fantasy universe of Warhammer 40,000! "

 

So I'm assuming they had a job lot of extra frames for all those discontinued kits before switching to new moulds, and are looking at a viable way to sell them off. I'd think the plastic will be different to what they use now so can't just melt it down, and they know somebody will buy them biggrin.png


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That makes sense as these are distributed by Revell so they probably sold them on as a job lot.

Also yeah spacers sound good.

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The Battle for Vedros kits that were in Game were grey plastic, so they could be repackaged old sprues in new boxes but the Revell kits are : blue plastic for the marines, dark green plastic for Orks and black plastic for objective markers, so they might have been specially cast in coloured plastic as a job lot.


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What I'm thinking of doing (though I don't have the bits in front of me) is swapping the legs between the two kits, and using the modern arms only. I will also add spellcrow tabards which will bulk them out a bit. I found a size comparison online:

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Besides arms and extras the extra height seems to be in the legs.

DW knights will be fourth edition I presume? I always think of them as "new".

Anyway both orders have shipped now so I can stop speculating soon haha.


DW knights are sixth edition, as if I recall correctly, that was the last DA codex I bought and the first one to include them.
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Final question, but I have a spare terminator torso. How hard would it be to use that to convert Dready into a venerable dread? (Or would that just look silly?)

Also, if this is an AoBR dreadnought, does it have a scenic base built in?




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