Prot Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 So just for background I was putting together a bunch of my Grey Knights for sale. As I grabbed a bunch of my latest painted models I realized I’m reluctant to sell them. I’m thinking of canceling the idea and adding units I do not really use to the army an painting them as well. For those of you that don’t know, this is my third, full GK army since their inception so I admit motivation to paint is harder to find when you’ve done the army a few times over ( thank Titan for Voldus. One of my favourite sculpts)! I don’t have a banner bearer, or many Termies, or the flyer ther can use now. I also don’t have a standard Brother Captain, or even a Landraider. Add to this fact that kill team is on the way, this might be a very good time for that motivation! What combination of brother Captain builds are worth trying? Is anyone still using the banner? I recently did a Stormraven and want to keep it in the lists. I imagine no one us using the other flyers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danarc Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 GK kill teamwould probably be made only by PA. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 I wouldn't be too surprised if GK get access to TDA. If we go with the "4 unit options" they've shown so far I'd say there'll be Strike , Purifier, Terminators and ... well the last one is tricky since I don't think GK will get Terminators AND a high mobilty (Interceptor) or heavy weapon (Purgation) option and there are no Primaris to fill the remaining slots like with the regular Marine team. Anyway, great to see you not selling your GK, Prot. I'm looking forward to your Kill Team eventually. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted July 9, 2018 Author Share Posted July 9, 2018 That’s an interesting thought. And thank you. It’s been a difficult decision. I’m hopeful Kill Team keeps GK interesting, and therefore motivating to paint. I’d love to get some other stuff in there as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Mytre Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 If we're lucky, we might see what they have planned for the GK codex. Things like special weapons stat lines being updated etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamtro Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 I use a storm talon with my GK. I generally back field it, try keep out of LOS and use Astral aim. Twin Lascannon is solid for AT and TAC works well for infantry/light vehicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danarc Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 I use a storm talon with my GK. I generally back field it, try keep out of LOS and use Astral aim. Twin Lascannon is solid for AT and TAC works well for infantry/light vehicles. It is unlikely that anyone could get access to ST in a KT game. I hope that we could have GKT for KT, but I am not optimistic. TA 2+ has been banned since last KT edition. but it would be very fluffy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 I use a storm talon with my GK. I generally back field it, try keep out of LOS and use Astral aim. Twin Lascannon is solid for AT and TAC works well for infantry/light vehicles. It is unlikely that anyone could get access to ST in a KT game. I hope that we could have GKT for KT, but I am not optimistic. TA 2+ has been banned since last KT edition. but it would be very fluffy. This is not just a Kill Team thread if you'd read the thread title carefully. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danarc Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Ah! I missed the second part of the title, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted July 9, 2018 Author Share Posted July 9, 2018 Yes the idea is I use ( and maybe other people will jump aboard too) the Kill Team ruleset as motivation to paint infantry which I hope in turn motivates me/us to do units for regular 40k as well. I’m having trouble remembering but a Stormtalon still counts as being on the table for the purposes of figuring out starting ratios for deep strike, right? It’s been a long time since I saw anyone using Stormtalons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamtro Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Yes the idea is I use ( and maybe other people will jump aboard too) the Kill Team ruleset as motivation to paint infantry which I hope in turn motivates me/us to do units for regular 40k as well. I’m having trouble remembering but a Stormtalon still counts as being on the table for the purposes of figuring out starting ratios for deep strike, right? It’s been a long time since I saw anyone using Stormtalons. Yep Flyers all deploy turn 1 as per normal units (unless special rules state otherwise) and they're still a deployment option. Just cant capture objectives and don't count as a model for checking if you have something on the board at the end of a turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffersonian000 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 I use run a squad of Interceptors in previous Kill Team games, see no reason not to continue unless they restrict us to specific non-Interceptor units. SJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted July 10, 2018 Author Share Posted July 10, 2018 I spent a lot of time with GK in Shadow Wars and I think that clouds my memory of GK in the last Kill Team. But I will say I found GK a lot of fun in Shadow Wars so there's hope! The Interceptors are part of my ever growing Strike collection. A long time ago someone pointed me towards a good magnetization tutorial for GK backpacks. So as a result about 10 of my Strikes can be Interceptors if need be. I know GK don't have SIA, but I can say I learned how incredibly annoying even a Stormbolter can be with my Deathwatch. Just the pure volume of it all. I admit that aspect of the army is something I forgot or down played a lot. Part of my new direction with GK will be trying to get as many on the field as possible again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 The last Shadow Wars campaign I've played in the Skitarii player fed the Tyranid player two games in a row and then the Tyranid player just proceeded to steamroll us. Especially the GK player was struggling since he was not capable of replacing his casualties properly unlike the rest of us (AM, Skitarii and T'au). ^^ I know GK don't have SIA, but I can say I learned how incredibly annoying even a Stormbolter can be with my Deathwatch. Just the pure volume of it all. I admit that aspect of the army is something I forgot or down played a lot. Part of my new direction with GK will be trying to get as many on the field as possible again. The Psybolt Ammunition Stratagem makes Stormbolter even more scary. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Mytre Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 The last Shadow Wars campaign I've played in the Skitarii player fed the Tyranid player two games in a row and then the Tyranid player just proceeded to steamroll us. Especially the GK player was struggling since he was not capable of replacing his casualties properly unlike the rest of us (AM, Skitarii and T'au). ^^ I know GK don't have SIA, but I can say I learned how incredibly annoying even a Stormbolter can be with my Deathwatch. Just the pure volume of it all. I admit that aspect of the army is something I forgot or down played a lot. Part of my new direction with GK will be trying to get as many on the field as possible again. The Psybolt Ammunition Stratagem makes Stormbolter even more scary. It's super good, it's just 4x overcosted. 2cp + being hard to gain CP makes it a one use per game kind of stratagem, sadly. However, it can pretty much kill any squad if you roll above average - throw in rerolls (albeit expensive to gain) and it will wipe pretty much any squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted July 10, 2018 Author Share Posted July 10, 2018 Yes it's pretty much how I played it... a once per game, all or nothing, hail Mary shot at the end zone type of play. With DW there is a +1 to wound Strat that is 2 CP as well and it is specific to the type of unit you are shooting at. But the difference is I had a way (all be it limited) of getting CP back with DW, and I always used a double Battalion. I may still try it with the GK. The problem for me is I like my 'cool' HQ's and the GK HQ's use a lot more points than my DW equivalent. The trade off being the Psychic phase (of which I had virtually none of with DW). The Stormbolter is still a fantastic weapon. If this gets me more units/troops on the table it might be worth a shot at a long term goal of a double Battalion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Well and CSM have a +1 to wound Stratagem without any restriction for 1CP and a double shoot Stratagem for Slaanesh units for 2CP and can take either Noise Marines or Combi-Bolter Chosen for S4 AP0 shooting. GK are still underpowered with their good stuff but it's not like they don't have anything. ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffersonian000 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 I read the Shadow War rules, and decided to sit that one out. The GK rules were too limiting, and I had no desire to try the other factions. It was like Kill Team on hard mode, not the way I wanted to relax. SJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 I liked Shadow War. It was a million times better than the last Kill Team GW released. Not as good as HoR tho unfortunately so it got dropped rather quickly in our group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffersonian000 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Yeah, I do Heralds of Ruin. It’s a great rule set, easy to get into, easy to run as a ladder campaign. SJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted July 11, 2018 Author Share Posted July 11, 2018 The jury’s out in what Kill Team does fir GK, but they do keep referring to it as their tightest game system with options for tournament play. I’m really looking forward to it for gameplay on a few armies that aren’t doing too well in the main system. I would love a real reason to paint more GK Termies so I really hope that option exists in KT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soder Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 I really hope we get to use terminators in one form or another for Kill Team. It’d really suck if all they give us access to is Strikes, Interceptors and Purgation squads. We’re second last on the preview list. So just about 10 more days and we’ll find out! Would they give us Purifiers? Maybe in this close quarters type game they would be more viable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted July 11, 2018 Author Share Posted July 11, 2018 Purifiers could actually have a very cool role in Kill team. Right now they have a serious movement, and range problem, but in that type of scenario they could be vicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 I'd expect Purifiers more than Purgation Squad Marine. Purgation Squad Marines only really have a purpose if they don't allow any others special weapons ... or if they invent some fancy special rule for them which is kinda unlikely. If GK get Interceptors then their jump ability will be changed quite a bit considering that there aren't any units nearly as mobile for any kill team so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmablasts Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 If Interceptors were included, I could almost see them having to pay a Command Point to use their shunt move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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