Tanith First and Only

strawberry fist · July 16, 2018

Hello there,

I’m looking to start a regiment to represent the Tanith First and Only, I’m thinking of using a commissar and a few company/ platoon commanders, lots of infantry squads and possibly command squads with sniper Riffles.

Which models would be best to use?

Which heavy and special weapons would be best to put in the infantry squads (fluffy and competitive)?

I would also like them to be supported by a small tank regiment but can’t remember any names of these regiments that fought along side them.

Thanks for your help and sorry if I’ve duplicated a thread

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E_50_Panzer · July 16, 2018

Hello there,

I’m looking to start a regiment to represent the Tanith First and Only, I’m thinking of using a commissar and a few company/ platoon commanders, lots of infantry squads and possibly command squads with sniper Riffles.

Which models would be best to use?

Which heavy and special weapons would be best to put in the infantry squads (fluffy and competitive)?

I would also like them to be supported by a small tank regiment but can’t remember any names of these regiments that fought along side them.

Thanks for your help and sorry if I’ve duplicated a thread

:(

As far as minis go, you can get GWs version of gaunt, mkoll, rawne, and dorden on ebay as per the old command squad. For troops though, victoria miniatures has these border world rangers which are an almost perfect fit. Tank regiment they fought with would be the pardus armored, on hagia, and i think also in vervunhive if my memory is right. They are mentioned as having leman russ conquerors and at least one laser destroyer. For heavy and special weapons, the tanith have a lot of regular missile launchers and flamers. And yeah, snipers would be great for the theme.

Ranulf · July 16, 2018

To echo Panzers' thoughts above - Victoria Miniatures would be a good starting point for minis - adding in the official GW minis for some variation and flavour.

If you're handy with greenstuff, check out Dave Taylor's Tanith for inspiration here: https://davetaylorminiatures.blogspot.com/search?q=tanith

-Ran

duz_ · July 16, 2018

Thirded VM should see you put together a nice lil regiment! :tu:

Looking forward to seeing how this gurns out :)

Which Regimental Doctrine do you think you'll use to represent them?

Halfpint100 · July 16, 2018

Missile launchers, flames and snipers were their only heavy/special weapons in the books. With their commissar using his trusty plasma pistol

spafe · July 16, 2018

And heavy bolters and Autocannons. I think they have also used grenade launchers and mortars, although less sure on the mortar front.

Basically references to them using lascannons, meltaguns or plasmaguns are non existent from what I can remember but all the others have been mentioned.

Tyr13 · July 16, 2018

Doctrine-wise, Tallarn seems like the obvious choice. Light, mobile infantry with an outflank option. Dagger seems like the relic of choice as well.

strawberry fist · July 16, 2018

I’ve not had chance to get the codex yet :( so been looking at the index for them.

I was hoping to try and only use Games Workshop parts as some stores can be fussy about you playin in store with non GW models :( so would caravan models with green stuff capes be best or Chadians with capes?

Thinking heavy weapons teams with missile launchers would be a very fluffy as well as command squads full of sniper Riffles.

Harrowmaster · July 16, 2018

Glade guard cloaks and other parts could be useful if you want to use GW parts.

Ranulf · July 16, 2018

The camo-cloaks are the most identifiable part of the Tanith regiment, Cadians with bare-heads or Catachan minis with cloaks would work.

Anvil Industries does a good resin cloak: http://anvilindustry.co.uk/Regiments/cloaks-banners-officers/camouflage-cloaks-28mm. If any GW staffers raised an eyebrow, you could just state that they're made of Greenstuff.

-Ran

strawberry fist · July 16, 2018

The camo-cloaks are the most identifiable part of the Tanith regiment, Cadians with bare-heads or Catachan minis with cloaks would work.

Anvil Industries does a good resin cloak: http://anvilindustry.co.uk/Regiments/cloaks-banners-officers/camouflage-cloaks-28mm. If any GW staffers raised an eyebrow, you could just state that they're made of Greenstuff.

-Ran

I do like the look of these cloaks, if the Tainth ones are very similar I could make these out of green stuff to save a few pounds.

Tyr13 · July 16, 2018

If you want to stick to GW, Id probably go with catachans... possibly with a headwap and shaved down shoulders, and a GS cape. Doesnt have to be clean either, its camo, its supposed to be tattered. :P
I feel like the shoulders and heads on the catachans are the worst parts, adding a cape to them would allow you to fix that. Head swaps would be optional too, you could just use the heads they come with if you dont mind the look. And hoods are always an option, ofc. (just make a triangle from green stuff, drape it over the head so the widest part is at about eyebrow level on the fron of the head, and tuck in the rest.)

Could be cool. :)

duz_ · July 16, 2018

Im sure if you trawl around the forum and internets you'll find other ways of doing capes with guaze if you have limited GS ability like I do! :tu: :D

strawberry fist · July 16, 2018

Just need to find a way to make good looking capes :)

How many infantry squads should I run?

walter h · July 17, 2018

If you are worried, use Catachan w/ Cadian and greenstuff cloaks.Tyr,is correct and greenstuff cloaks will be fairly easy.

Plasmablasts · July 17, 2018

I made my Tanith from Catachans, green-stuff cloaks and a mixture of WHFB Empire and Mordheim heads (including the famous Middenheim “hairy head” sprue). Small caveat: The Catachans look huge compared to the old metal Tanith models.

Special weapons: flamers, sniper rifles and “tread-fethers” (missile launchers) are iconic; a couple of crew-served support weapons are also described, which sound like reasonable matches for heavy bolters and autocannons. I can’t remember grenade launchers or mortars being mentioned, but they seem to fit with the rest of their equipment, so would be plausible additions. Lascannons, meltas and plasma guns are conspicuous by their absence.

For associated armoured regiments, the Pardus (from Honour Guard) and Narmenians (Necropolis) are the two which come to mind.

Inso · July 17, 2018

Maybe the House Orlock gang from Necromunda would be a good source for the troops? If you leave the shoulder pads off and add Green-Stuff cloaks?:

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Necromunda-Orlock-Gang-2018

Weapon swap with Cadians/Catachans.

spafe · July 17, 2018

I assume it wil lwork with cloaks, but one chap years back on the no non gw parts at a store I used to play at, ordered loads of 3rd party heads for his...fantasy army I think, then greenstuff press moulded a fw to have as 'spares' that if a staffer asked about them he showed to 'prove' they were all green stuff not 3rd party. since when painted on the model no-one could say otherwise, he got away with it.

walter h · July 17, 2018

On second thought I believe we have failed to use all our resources. I believe that, a fellow frater has an answer to this question. Coffee grunt,had an interesting take on the ,Savlar chemdogs,that might be workable for the ,Tanith 1st,and only. Using the kits from Empire Archers,and Cadian heads,and arms with archer bodies you would have the look. Using cloaks and using camo,paint ,with solid greens,or browns for the bodies with add on's from the Cadians, such as knives grenades,belts pouches provide the look you want.If they are still available look at ,Hades Hive Hyenas.

noigrim · July 17, 2018

I'been toying with the idea of doing tanith outa catachan, the berets and cloaks would cover those bandanas ant the characters are fitting too: mkoll marbo, bragg harker, rawne straken. Plus great narmenian conquerors

strawberry fist · July 17, 2018

Thinking the catachan with cloaks and hoods...

Would the tempestus models work well for McColl and his scout forces?

noigrim · July 18, 2018

more like for volpones, scouts are an elite that deploy just one guy like marbo

Exilyth · July 22, 2018

About the equipment used by ghosts:

According to lexicanum: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Tanith_First_and_Only Tanith use missile launchers, autocannons, heavy bolters, sniper rifles and of course lasguns and the straight silver.
Sniper rifles used tend to be hot-shot lasrifles known as 'long las' most of the time, but in "the fortress", the ghosts use bolt action rifles firing salt-solution filled glass shells to disable traps.
Their comissars use bolt pistols and there have been some occasions on which a plasma pistol was used (e.g. by http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Viktor_Hark).
And of course, support personel use laspistols.
Demolition charges and other explosives are used in many occasions.
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Known_Members_of_the_Tanith_First_and_Only lists some troopers in the position of 'flame trooper', so flamethrowers are also a given.
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Ibram_Gaunt wields a chainsword at first, which gets later replaced by a special power weapon, the http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Sword_of_Heironymo_Sondar.
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/List_of_Gaunt's_Ghosts_Characters contains more information on ghosts equipment, but also SPOILERS.
e.g. Sniper Rilke uses a needle las

For building them, unfortunably GW only does catachans and cadians currently. One could try sculpting camo cloaks on either. Or mix & match parts with bitz from other vendors.

strawberry fist · July 22, 2018

so the snipers weren't snipers but more tempests like units then with the hot shot?

Thinking of running infantry squads with grenade launcher and missile launchers, should I go for the full 6 squads?

strawberry fist · July 22, 2018

1002 - Using Tallarn doctrine

[HQ

Company Commander - Corbec

Boltgun, Chainsword

Lord Commissar - Warlord Colonel commissar Gaunt

Boltgun, Master of Command, Power sword, Warlord

Troops

Infantry Squad

. 8x Guardsman