Delta.Skies Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Thinking of taking BA allies with my Deathwatch and possible AM. AM being the gunline, and DW being the mid range objective troops leaving me with an open detachment that Im thinking of putting BA in. Just reading through tactics and brief summaries and what not, Im thinking of doing a deep striking Vanguard Detachment. Capt and Index Priest. The question that i call upon you guys what 3 elite options do you think i should go with. I know the big debate is either DC or SG with if you want to clear hordes or lock heavy units in DC, but they will break if they dont conquer. However im not to sure what SG would do in this situation other than be durable. Any tips or pointers you can point out when choosing units. I think 1 would definitely be an ancient holding a banner yes? Just now reading up on them so forgive me for my lack of knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 One thing to bear in mind with Sanguinary Guard is that they really want to be near your warlord to benefit from "Heirs of Azkellon". If you are using your AM Commander as your Warlord to farm CPs, that makes SG look less attractive. With that in mind, I would lean towards DC, Lemartes and Captain Smash. For other Elites, I am not sure who would work best. How many points do you have to play with? You could run 3 5-man squads of DC, each with 1 hammer. That is not too many points but allows you to potentially hit a lot of targets and deny your opponent an easy priority target in return. Plus small squads can essentially ignore morale. Only downside is it makes "Descent of Angels" and "Forlorn Fury" less effective than 1 big squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta.Skies Posted August 8, 2018 Author Share Posted August 8, 2018 Fluff wise it would be between either DW or AM as my warlord, but more than likely DW. Building 2k list so its can be open. But I know DW takes up a fair amount of points. And see I dont know the setups of stratagems fully to know what pairs with SG or DC. I just know a lil about the units themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Deathwatch have access to Special Issue Ammo with its improved AP. You also have the ability to run mixed squads of Primaris marines which means your Hellblasters can use the Intercessors as ablative wounds. This means that killing MEQs and other elite infantry should not be a problem. Since this is where SG excel, this is another point in favour of DC as they can deal with hordes while your Deathwatch concentrate on tougher targets. Your AM can hold backfield objectives and maybe supply some heavy firepower in the form of tanks or ordnance (I rather like Manticores). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta.Skies Posted August 9, 2018 Author Share Posted August 9, 2018 Deathwatch have access to Special Issue Ammo with its improved AP. You also have the ability to run mixed squads of Primaris marines which means your Hellblasters can use the Intercessors as ablative wounds. This means that killing MEQs and other elite infantry should not be a problem. Since this is where SG excel, this is another point in favour of DC as they can deal with hordes while your Deathwatch concentrate on tougher targets. Your AM can hold backfield objectives and maybe supply some heavy firepower in the form of tanks or ordnance (I rather like Manticores). Got ya, think the only concern would be sanguinary priest and ancient. i feel if i make it a battalion then add the priest. is ancient viable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Got ya, think the only concern would be sanguinary priest and ancient. i feel if i make it a battalion then add the priest. is ancient viable? The Ancient does not bring much to DC IMHO. The Company Ancient works well with shooty units as if they get killed, they can fire again on a 4+. The Sanuinary Ancient with the Standard of Sacrifice relic works well with expensive units like Sanguinary Guard and Inceptors to help keep them alive but the Standard of Sacrifice states it does not work on Death Company. In my experience, Death Company really only need Lemartes to boost them. DW will be expensive. My advice with the Blood Angels is to keep them cheap and focus on just covering the areas not handled by your other units. This is mainly melee with a focus on the extremes of hordes (DC) and large targets (Captain Smash). You can make up a very effective (and expensive) Deathstar using Sanguinary Guard, Sanguinary Ancient, Sanguinary Priest and Sanguinor to fill out a Supreme Command Detachment but it is very pricey at around 700 points and it specialises in killing the kind of elite units that your DW with SIA are already equipped to handle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta.Skies Posted August 9, 2018 Author Share Posted August 9, 2018 Thanks man I appreciate this. I'll do two list. A vanguard and a battalion option with all 3 and see what I come out to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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