antique_nova Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 So, I just saw the new ork vehicles and I am severely disappointed, because it makes no sense. I know there is orks make no sense, but then there is 40k makes no sense, makes no sense. I linked the video with the image below: My first question is where the hell did the Orks get the designs for a formula one car? Nothing in the imperial arsenal or any other species arsenal even closely resembles that ork formula 1 car and orks are not capable of creating such clean designs. The design is also far too clean and aerodynamic for an ork vehicle. Ork designs are meant to be big, brutish and edgy (literally) and this formula 1 car is the exact opposite of that. Plus, where the hell are orks going to manufactor, let alone get the smooth tires necessary, especially when most battlefields are nowhere near smooth enough for that car to run and run fast at all, because they are not easy to create and Ork willpower only works on machines, not on the smoothness or production of tires. There's a reason why every vehicle built for war has an elevated base and I can tell you now that that ork car wouldn't last 1 minute, before it gets thrown into the air like a rag doll. Especially with the wings at the front, because all the debris will just slow down or savagely stop that car. In short, it doesn't look 40k at all and doesn't belong in the 40k universe and this is the first time I've ever felt the need to say that out of everything they've ever produced since I started in 5th edition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 I think that squig co pilot is so damn cute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 I fell the same, but I don't play orks, so really does not bother me that much. From a race that build a teleporter that could move moons, I can expect anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halandaar Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Is this news or a rumour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Is this news or a rumour? Yesn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 I actually really like the new Ork buggies. They looks frigging awesome. So, I just saw the new ork vehicles and I am severely disappointed, because it makes no sense. I know there is orks make no sense, but then there is 40k makes no sense, makes no sense. My first question is where the hell did the Orks get the designs for a formula one car? Nothing in the imperial arsenal or any other species arsenal even closely resembles that ork formula 1 car and orks are not capable of creating such clean designs. The design is also far too clean and aerodynamic for an ork vehicle. Ork designs are meant to be big, brutish and edgy (literally) and this formula 1 car is the exact opposite of that. Plus, where the hell are orks going to manufactor, let alone get the smooth tires necessary, especially when most battlefields are nowhere near smooth enough for that car to run and run fast at all, because they are not easy to create and Ork willpower only works on machines, not on the smoothness or production of tires. There's a reason why every vehicle built for war has an elevated base and I can tell you now that that ork car wouldn't last 1 minute, before it gets thrown into the air like a rag doll. Especially with the wings at the front, because all the debris will just slow down or savagely stop that car. In short, it doesn't look 40k at all and doesn't belong in the 40k universe and this is the first time I've ever felt the need to say that out of everything they've ever produced since I started in 5th edition. You're questioning design logic of a race that weaponized moons using teleporter technology? And really, the box is called "Speed Freaks". Of all the orks, the Speed Freaks are the ones who seem to understand aerodynamics, as a lot of speed freak vehicles look marginally more aerodynamic than other orky vehicles. Also the comment about the vehicle being too low: Have you ever seen Marine Bikes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 I think they're zoggin cool and can't wait to see how much we can kustomize them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNCenturion Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 All the Imperium has to do to thwart them is put down speed bumps. The chassis sits so low to the ground it would destroy the undercarriage spectacularly. The other orks sure would get a kick out of that though. Now if they were racing in the Indy 500, they’d be good to go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteySödes Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 If enough believe there’s enough clearance they should be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNCenturion Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 If enough believe there’s enough clearance they should be fine. Lol and this is why orks iz da bestest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 If an Ork believes that car can be driven on a Battlefield.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calyptra Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 I think the new buggies are great. I'm a little uncertain about how low they are, but that's certainly not a deal breaker for me. Everything else is wonderful. While the Orks excell at proactive recycling and improvisation, they do also fabricate their own, more considered designs. And a lot of it just has to do with the personalities of the relevant Meks. Put differently, Orks possess the most advanced field technology in the galaxy. They are certainly capable of building clean designs if they want to. Something that's been lost over the years is the distinct look of the different Clans. I think it's relevant here because Snakebites or Deathskulls vehicles are going to look a lot more scrap-built than Evil Sunz or Bad Moons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Do squigs put their head out the window when Speed Freaks are flying down the badlands? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexington Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Orks are made up, and part of a universe that's an amalgam of modern pop sci-fi floatsam and clear analogues of fantasy races. "Why are they like things we have" isn't really the question to ask. As to the design, Ork vehicles aren't all the same. The ones that are meant to go fast look like they should go fast. Been this way since always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Arkley Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 I can imagine Ork Meks making the fastest cars on places like that planet the Orks fight the Scars on. Dragsters, Hotrods etc... They are the Speed Freaks I can't wait to see a diorama of a downed Eldar Grav tank and a Buggy using it as a ramp to crash into a WraithKnight or Lord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Wait, Ork's are fictional? I just assumed they were a tabletop representation of our Australian board members. I've been holding off on collecting an ork army for a decade. These new models might just change that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Imagine being so helpless you can't even do a simple modification to raise the ride height of the vehicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 I've been holding off on collecting an ork army for a decade. These new models might just change that. Same here! I mean, well... Not the decade part :lol: I was interested in Orks from the get-go from when I started playing 40k, but never felt that they had enough decently sized vehicles that aren't expensive. (seriously. The buggy is 30 bucks and looks like a go-kart :lol:) This changes all of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toaae Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 I plan on raising them, as I also don't really like how low they are. But the aesthetic design I don't have a problem with, and there's more than enough orky gubbins on it to make it fit in with previous models. I think I would have preferred a proper "buggy", but these are sick models and I'll be getting multiple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antique_nova Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 The Ork vehicles as I mentioned before are "too areodynamic" And you guy seem to miss the point about ork designs. Ork designs are based on copying others. Other planes, other titans (bigger Orks basically) And so are their teleportation devices. My question is where did they find the inspiration to build a formula 1 car? To make super smooth tires? No race I know has either of those things. Plus, the front plow will hit a rock and send the car flying, because it hugs the ground too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 I think the new buggies are great. I'm a little uncertain about how low they are, but that's certainly not a deal breaker for me. Everything else is wonderful. While the Orks excell at proactive recycling and improvisation, they do also fabricate their own, more considered designs. And a lot of it just has to do with the personalities of the relevant Meks. Put differently, Orks possess the most advanced field technology in the galaxy. They are certainly capable of building clean designs if they want to. Something that's been lost over the years is the distinct look of the different Clans. I think it's relevant here because Snakebites or Deathskulls vehicles are going to look a lot more scrap-built than Evil Sunz or Bad Moons. Oh I don't know. I think my deathskullz vehicles will look suspiciously like other clan's stuff with some hefty repaint :D As to the OP. Orks are at a stage whereby if they believe, it literally will work - don't forget the narrative whereby imperials tried using Ork guns and they simply didn't fire. Ork psyche is incredibly powerful. Those buggies ain't crashing and the ground clearance is no issue :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Casman Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 I like 'em. If anyone is going to have an instinctive sense of aerodynamics, it would be the Speed Freeks. They'd probably be able to conceive of smooth tracks for the races, too. And if they crash in battle, well, that's always good for a laugh, right ladz? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toaae Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Ork designs are based on copying others. Other planes, other titans (bigger Orks basically) And so are their teleportation devices. They are not. Gargants were inspired by encounters with Imperium titans, but they are designed based on the Mek's personal interpretation of Gork and Mork. Other vehicles are up to the whims of the Mek building it. And their teleportation devices, much like most of their actual teknology, is hardcoded into their DNA, and is often more sophisticated than Imperium equivalents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawtooth Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 I love them. I also find it hilarious that they mounted a shokk attack gun on the back to give speed boosts when it fires. Nothing about Ork vehicles needs to actually make sense to me and I like it that way :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlamingDeth Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 The Ork vehicles as I mentioned before are "too areodynamic" And you guy seem to miss the point about ork designs. Ork designs are based on copying others. Other planes, other titans (bigger Orks basically) And so are their teleportation devices. My question is where did they find the inspiration to build a formula 1 car? To make super smooth tires? No race I know has either of those things. Plus, the front plow will hit a rock and send the car flying, because it hugs the ground too much This is hilariously wrong. Orks don't copy the teleportation technology of others, they have the most sophisticated and advanced teleportation technology in the galaxy. As far as other tech, Ork technology has always been a combination of stuff hardcoded into their genes, copying things they like, and actual creativity. I kind of feel like all your ork background comes from memes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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