Sandlemad Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Lots of scope for whole worlds being put to the sword due to ongoing doubts about thier loyalty based on flimsy, circumstantial (deliberately planted?) evidence .. also working out whta to do with the 'new' knowledge about the Warp, daemons, chaos etc. that these Imperial servants now must acknowledge and collect and deploy as necessary. The Ecclesiarchy's rise in the aftermath of the Imperial Truth as a very recent - even still enforced in some places, no doubt - thing. Working out what to do about Blackshields; local regional commanders who may have remained loyal but be too 'brashly' independent ; that usual air of pathos and tragedy inherent in forces which *are* demonstrably loyal being executed, killed in less official ways {"ork snipers" you say..} etc. because their ongoing existence is "inconvenient" ... This is something I hadn't really considered but there's interesting potential there. A century or two's worth of Order 66-style affairs as inconvenient truths are hidden away and forces that don't fit into the new imperium getting sidelined and 'removed' by new bodies like the inquisition. It seems some did quietly survive in some form - the Death Eagles and other fan-speculated chapters that began life as renegade forces from traitor legions by a fresh lick of paint (under the auspices of a primarch, perhaps?) - but by no means all. I suspect this would be better dealt with through a pseudo-historical approach rather than narrative fiction. 'Here is where the shadowy paper trail of this force disappears' and so forth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 It's a time of all out war where everywhere the enemies of mankind sought to capitalise on humanity's weakness. That's a scope for a lot of new material. New enemies, new races, new battles we've never heard of... and I think we ALL want to read about the Iron Cage. And the destruction of the Traitor Legion strongholds. In particular the Iron Warriors and Night Lords had to be driven out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calgar101 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 There is so much potential for a Scouring series but perhaps BL should wait a while? So we do not suffer burn out. A FW series would be great too, say 4 big books? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 I just hope the Iron Cage doesn't portray Dorn as an idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calgar101 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Yeah definitely needs to be well written. I would love to read about the build up and repercussions of the incident. Unleash Dorn's righteous fury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slan Drakkos Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 A tastefully done examination of the politics between Dorn, Russ, and Guilliman. Guilliman pushing for his reforms, Dorn refusing to change from the Emperor’s original vision, and Russ pushing for the empire to be broken apart between the remaining Primarchs. Very little battles and combat. Almost purely intrigue and exposition. I'm just waiting for that moment when Vulkan talks to Guilliman about how he has like fourty kids left and Guilliman wants to break them up into chapters. Guilliman: It has to be done. We need to prevent another war like that from happening. Vulkan: Brother, do you see the teleporter on my hip? Guilliman: Yes.....what about it? Vulkan: It's also a hammer. Guilliman whilst nervously sweating: Ok, ok, your kids are exempt from the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonreaper666 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Traitor Blackshields from Loyalist Legions And for a Chaos Warband to form up from these Chaos Blackshields that survive up the M42 Millenium The Black Legion The BL is a Traitor Legion though Need more diversity in the Traitor ranks Plus, a 10k year old Chaos Warband that would wreck multiple Loyalist Chapters would balance out the Protagonist Plot Armor of the Loyal Space Marines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Traitor Blackshields from Loyalist Legions And for a Chaos Warband to form up from these Chaos Blackshields that survive up the M42 Millenium The Black LegionThe BL is a Traitor Legion though Need more diversity in the Traitor ranks Plus, a 10k year old Chaos Warband that would wreck multiple Loyalist Chapters would balance out the Protagonist Plot Armor of the Loyal Space Marines That’s not how this works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Shift Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 I'm interested in the iron cage but I'm worried again that they will make Dorn look like an idiot. I'd prefer that the narrative from the two sides is about right, the fists walk into an obvious trap but refuse to die and somehow manage to make the mutual destruction of both forces a reality until the ultramarines intervene. It should be pretty miserable for both factions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc warhammer Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 hopefully they'll do something similar to PoD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Scouring novels “confirmed” by Chris Wraight in recent interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Yeah this is great news ! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 I'd like a book written from a civilians perspective, taking place on a world that remained loyal to the Imperium but suffers due to the changes that happen to imperial society after the Heresy. The breakdown of freedoms, embracing a more basic bleak future, the Ecclesiarchy, The Inquisition purging possible collaborators and a final question of 'was this what we fought for? Would have we been better off siding with Horus?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A D-B Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Scouring novels “confirmed” by Chris Wraight in recent interview. Nope. I mean it, seriously. I'm sure they'll get done (we've all been saying it for years), but that was in no way a confirmation. It was phrasing taken out of context to mean something adamant. We've not even planned every Siege novel yet. No one is like "Yeah, the Scouring is definitely happening." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbienw Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Has the Sigismund traitor champion killing rampage novel been planned yet?! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonreaper666 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 The Loyalist Primarchs learning of the cages in which they were supposed to spend the rest of their lives Guilliman destroying the last records of the Two Lost Legions, Blood Ravens and Silver Skulls Loyalist Primarchs scarred so much from the Heresy that they can't enjoy non-military stuff anymore: -Khan can't enjoy painting (Thinks of Daemon Fulgrim every time he tries) -Vulkan is claustrophobic (Konrad's torture is stuck in his head) -Corax is afraid of apples (Can't tell if they're apples or human hearts) -Guilliman confesses to his mother-of-sorts that he is losing interest in the things he usually enjoys (like administrator and leadership) and wishes somebody puts him out of misery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 The Loyalist Primarchs learning of the cages in which they were supposed to spend the rest of their lives Guilliman destroying the last records of the Two Lost Legions, Blood Ravens and Silver Skulls Loyalist Primarchs scarred so much from the Heresy that they can't enjoy non-military stuff anymore: -Khan can't enjoy painting (Thinks of Daemon Fulgrim every time he tries) -Vulkan is claustrophobic (Konrad's torture is stuck in his head) -Corax is afraid of apples (Can't tell if they're apples or human hearts) -Guilliman confesses to his mother-of-sorts that he is losing interest in the things he usually enjoys (like administrator and leadership) and wishes somebody puts him out of misery Dude. Stop. Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZebraM Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 It'll be really interesting to see the cultural shift of the legions/chapters following the departure of the primarchs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Scouring novels “confirmed” by Chris Wraight in recent interview. Nope. I mean it, seriously. I'm sure they'll get done (we've all been saying it for years), but that was in no way a confirmation. It was phrasing taken out of context to mean something adamant. We've not even planned every Siege novel yet. No one is like "Yeah, the Scouring is definitely happening." That was kind of why I put the quotes round confirmed. His words in the interview referred to Scouring novels. Even if there’s no series planned a few different novels on a couple of events might be worthwhile. Of course it depends on whether there are any events that authors want to write about which may also depend on workloads. I did realise that you’ve only just been in Siege meetings (there were pictures of beards around a table!) Personally I don’t care if there isn’t a scouring series. I will be happy with the HH and Siege and Primarchs series being finished off. That’s plenty of my cash for BL’s coffers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 31, 2018 Author Share Posted August 31, 2018 It'll be really interesting to see the cultural shift of the legions/chapters following the departure of the primarchs. Arguably, Battle of the Fang depicts that already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A D-B Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Scouring novels “confirmed” by Chris Wraight in recent interview. Nope. I mean it, seriously. I'm sure they'll get done (we've all been saying it for years), but that was in no way a confirmation. It was phrasing taken out of context to mean something adamant. We've not even planned every Siege novel yet. No one is like "Yeah, the Scouring is definitely happening." That was kind of why I put the quotes round confirmed. Yeah, I caught the quotes, but I'm already seeing people online refer to it as a legitimate confirmation. In stuff like this, it's less a reply to you-you, and more to the royal You. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 So what did Chris really mean then ? I think that is a valid question . "No doubt there will be many White Scars stories to come, both in the Scouring and beyond..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Even if Chris was on this forum they’re probably bound by Imperial laws of secrecy to not tell anyone anything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Well the first years of Black Templars would be nice. How they ended up with no librarians, how Sigismund modes them to his image and how they started worshipping the Emperor. Also old school purging obviously. Give us Straight Arrow Sigismund ADB, you gave us his death, now give us his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc warhammer Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 So what did Chris really mean then ? I think that is a valid question . "No doubt there will be many White Scars stories to come, both in the Scouring and beyond..." “no doubt” isn’t literal, it usually means ‘highly likely’ and “stories” can be anything, not necessarily novels. we’ve had stories set during the unification wars, but that doesn’t mean we’ve had a unification series no doubt it will happen (lel), but just pointing out you don’t even need context to see this sentence is not necessarily a 100% confirmation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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