The laughing raven Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 So far have put this list together from what i currently posses and wondering what to expand with next?; Cult Magraveen; Primary detachment; Patriarch with familiar; 162Purestrains x 8; 144 Total; 306 Primus; 71Neophyte Hybrids x 20; shotguns; Boltpistol; Icon;2 x seismic cannons; 2 x Webbers; 165 Total; 236 Magus with familiar; 85Rock grinder; Seismic cannon; demolition cache; 131 Total; 216 Acolytes x 5; Rock drill; Buzz saw; Hand flamers; Icon; 170? Not got book with me?Rock grinder; Seismic cannon; demolition cache; 131 Neophytes x 10; Autoguns; Boltpistol;2 x mining lasers; 2 x Grenade Launchers; 89Goliath Truck; Demo cache; 78 Total; 167 Secondary Detachment; Magus with familiar; 85 Neophyte x 10; lascannon; 2x grenade launcher; 80 Neophyte x 10; lascannon; 2x grenade launcher; 80 Neophytes x 10; 2 x heavy stubbers; 2 x flamers; 80 Total; 325 Leman Russ; Lascannon ; Multi-Meltas ; 192 Total 1743 remainder 257 for new shinies...?? Gives + 6cp Thinking an additional leman russ with either more acolytes or purestrains or possibly an iconward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshlands Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Personally I never take the vehicles so can't comment on those I'd suggest considering the primus. I've taken 3 ever since CA and used the strategem to buff 3 big infantry units coming in via CA (over turns 1 to 3). Aberrants have just got a rules update worth looking at and if guess will be even better when the book drops. Also as a side note, when it comes to the limit of what you can put in reserve, if you don't mind not being able to CA on turn 1 you can drop stuff in a corner and use return to the Shadows to be able drop it the following turn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The laughing raven Posted September 6, 2018 Author Share Posted September 6, 2018 Unless I swapped the patriarch out, where would you put the primus? Do you field only infantry then or do you use Am for tank goodness? I'm trying to make it a pure gsc list only using the index xenos options, converted my Russ to have a rock grinder blade and mining laser to fit the industrial feel of the rest and bout to go to town with the bits boxes on the 2 actual rock grinders next. Can't help but feel the twin autocannons are better then the mining weapons you have to take... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshlands Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 I generally use all infantry although if you're going pure GSC you may want the tanks for some firepower. I sometimes put the primus in a supreme command, or a couple of battalions, pretty sure you can fit two more primus in the detachments you have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The laughing raven Posted September 8, 2018 Author Share Posted September 8, 2018 Have been having a jig with battles rib and have come up with a 1500 list using what I have in one battalion and then a 2k list with 2 battalions and if I can tweak maybe a spearhead to get the extra cp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The laughing raven Posted September 10, 2018 Author Share Posted September 10, 2018 So my new 2k list, broken into 2 battalions and a spearhead. uses 3 squads at least in ambush. going for board control with troops with the vehicles and patriarch to do actual damage. 85 Cult Magraveen; The Red Ravens Battalion; Ambush Force. Patriarch with familiar; 162Purestrains x 8 120 Total; 282 Primus; 76Neophytes x 19; shotguns; Seismic cannons x 2, Webbers x 2Icon; chainsword; 151 Total; 227 Truck Force; Acolytes x 5; Handflamer, Rockdrill, Buzzsaw, Icon; 127Rock grinder; Seismic cannon, Demo cache; 129 Total; 256 Neophytes x 10; Mining lasers x 2, Grenade launchers x 2, Icon; 105Goliath truck; demo cache; 119 Total; 224 Total; 989. The Greenbacks battalion; Magus with Familiar; 85 Magus; 73 Neophytes x 10; 2 x grenade launcher & lascannon; 80 Neophytes x 10; 2 x grenade launcher & 2 heavy stubbers; 80 Neophytes x 10; Ambushing force 50 Total; 300. Barking Dogs spearhead; Primus; 76Rockgrinder; demo cache; 127 Leman russ x 2; Lascannon, Multi meltas & heavy stubber; 222 x 2; 444 Total; 647 Grand total 1994. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akrim Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 So my new 2k list, broken into 2 battalions and a spearhead. Grand total 1994. Better late than never? Ill throw out a few considerations; - Get more Purestrains, they do all the actual killing. I usually take 12 man units. - Cult Icons are wildly overcosted under Index, esp for Neos, even Acolytes is questionable. Make one an Iconward and he can buff multiple units. -Mining Lasers in a truck is questionable if youre going to be moving (reducing their BS) unless your intent is to advance into range and then use the truck like a bunker. -GSC HStubbers cost double what other armies pay >: / Better to go Seismics or flamers if youre ambushing. -Battlecannon Russes are best at long range, esp if you add hull lascannon and just boom away with grinding advance. Multimelta is somewhat a range mismatch. Plasma cannons fit nicely or just HBs. (*unless your meta is aggressive enemy vehicles - disregard.) -Grab/convert an Abominant theyre quite nasty, even if youre not taking Aberrants. Just my two cents. There is a lot of point costs out of whack with Index Xenos GSC. Really hoping the codex comes soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The laughing raven Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share Posted October 24, 2018 had only had one game with them and 4th of new edition.... last played 30k before this with Imperial fists & Alphas, so very different style to get to grips with :) 2nd game was against spacewolves and the points you raised were all highlighted in that game and have already accrued an extra box of purestrains for 16 in total, which will be my ambush unit, will probably scrap the sqaud of 2o neophytes who were doing so. the icons worked really well for my neophytes in first game, but did nothing really against marines so will prob just keep for acolytes as I have painted it up now... rest just kept in unit for aesthetic in next lists. I do use the goliath trucks as mobile bunkers, one move then act as turrets from there is plan, as the 5+ to hit suck more than a voracious hooker! Surprisingly the stubbers have been real workhorses for me so far, being one of the very few weapons that is 24"+ yet again they sit in a goliath with a pair of grenade launchers. I'm getting the feeling that using the mining weapons is a trap that should be avoided as they are very expensive for mediocre results. The local meta can be rather tank heavy and as I have a scarily improbable ability to roll 1's every time I overcharge plasma, I avoid them like the plague. All future Leman will just have Bolters though. Would love to get some aberrants and the abominant, also the iconward, hoping i can get the tooth and claw set when i next have spare cash as although the acolytes have the punch with the buzzsaws they disintegrate as soon as sneezed at.... Just an arse that they dont come in a small set yet. Really hoping the codex drops the costs and also makes rockgrinders open topped as they are pretty sucky as a heavy support when the can only hit on 5's or at least let them keep the twin autocannons or something with a bit of oomph at range... Having got the gaurd codex to make a heavy support detachment it now seems a lot more prudent to run AM with a cult miniforce on the side rather than other way round which is damn annoying. PS does anyone know where to get a Half track at correct scale for a Limo conversion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The laughing raven Posted November 1, 2018 Author Share Posted November 1, 2018 Cult Magraveen Patriarch with familiar; 16216 x Purestrains; 240 Neophytes x 10; Heavy stubbers x 2, Grenade launchers x 2; BP & CS 78Goliath truck; demo cache; 119 Neophytes x 10; Mining lasers x 2, Grenade launchers x 2; 88Goliath truck; demo cache; 119 Rock grinder; Seismic cannon; 117Rock grinder; Seismic cannon; 117 Primus 76Neophytes x 20; 2 x Flamers & 2 x Seismic cannon, shotguns, BP & CS , Icon; 155 (this unit is my most dubious choice, wondering what i could swap the unit for apart from ambushing acolytes?) Brood brother spearhead Tank commander; Multi meltas, Lascannon, Stubber, track gaurdsDozer blade; 268 Leman Russ; meltas, Lascannon, Stubber, track gaurds, Dozer blade; 223 Leman russ; Heavy bolters, Lascannon, Stubber, track gaurds, Dozer blade; Hunter killer missile: 205 Heavy weapons team mortars; 33 Total 2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulfast Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 That list looks like it could work very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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