I haven't read any TSons novels (only the Gathering Storm stuff with Ahriman tbh) but why do people think Rubrics aren't as good in melee as other Marines (as in giving them easier to handle weapons like maces)? Afaik they still have the same WS as other Marines and while under controle of a Sorcerer can fight just as good as any living Marine.
A lot of it attributes to the fact that for years the Thousand Sons combat doctrine has been to keep the enemy at range and avoid close combat (back in early 3rd, thousand sons were not even allowed to charge into combat, they had to be charged to be engaged). We don't suck at it, as you said we are marines, but were not world eaters or blood angels either. Add in the fact that for years rubrics were considered slow golems at all times and at one point, even would strike at initiative 1. The more recent fluff has changed a tad to say that in the heat of combat they pretty much return to marine status.
We're also missing some of the melee units that existed that haven't been ported over yet. Namely, Indomitus-pattern Rubric Terminators with Power Fists. They existed in 3.0 (where they could even have combi-weapons) and the old CCG, as well as in the color plates in Index Astartes. We also had units of marines (likely Aspiring Sorcerers) on Discs that appeared in the CCG and a few other places.
Finally, we had Possessed in 3.0 and 3.5. In 3.0 they got a speed boost. In 3.5, they were all Psykers. They could bring them back using the same rationale as Helbrutes: "students" from outside chapters duped into participating in the wrong ritual.
Just giving us the variant terminators (Indomitus and the Cataphractii that the Sekhmet are sometimes pictured wearing in older art) and making them appropriately hard would fix melee issues. So would giving us (and all Chaos, frankly) Contemptor access in mainline GW publications. Would be the best place to put our "Librarian Dread" as many have already stated. Possessed would be a bonus.
I could hope for the return of Rubric Dreadnoughts from 3.0/Forge World, but I think that fluff may have been redone.
I built a few possessed models, but I never used them. possessed were so damn expensive at 1 wound. I think they could get up to 50 points a model. You could roughly do the same thing with chosen, but they too were waaay too expensive.
Yeah I was super upset to read the helbrute fluff retcon rubric dreads. Basically said that the spirit of a rubric marine was too weak to pilot a dread. But...fluff has been retconned before and GW is known for doing some zany stuff. Watch....
"introducing the new rubric mega walker!"
"But you said rubric souls were too...."
"This one is piloted by 3 souls!"
"ohhhh totes makes sense now"
Edited by Ahzek451, 14 September 2018 - 07:15 PM.