Hathor42 Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 fiends got a extra wound and a champion upgrade with a extra attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Yeah I think Fiends are not just going to look great, but do great work on the table top too. Can't wait to get a couple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Anyone figure out exactly what Gore hounds are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Dicko Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Anyone figure out exactly what Gore hounds are? Can’t seem to find anything about this either... new type of generic herald? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logiter Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 From what I could see, it looked like a flesh hound upgrade per five models. Gets a flamer type attack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshlands Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Does anyone know what the changes to horrors are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 From what I could see, it looked like a flesh hound upgrade per five models. Gets a flamer type attack A 9 point flamer, as it turns out. Color me unimpressed. /smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 I haven’t honestly played my 8th Edition ‘Daemonkin’ army in months. Can anyone tell me if (in short) the Khorne Daemon unit’s, including their bloodthirsters became playable as a result of CA? For context I would say they have been extremely lacklustre since release, basically forcing me to pack mine up. Just curious what you guys think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skerr Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Are screamers 26 or 28 now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeStinyFiSh Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Looking at the Daemon changes I have to admit I like them. - Overall, Slaanesh is the big winner I think. If I am correct: Daemonettes down 1 point, Sekker down 4 (which is huge for me), 23 points for Hellflayer and 20 for Chariots, Fiends down 4 points, Masqu 13 and Herald 10. Last but not least, KoS went down 63 points. I expected the Seekers, Fiends and KoS to go down, but not the whole bunch of Slaanesh models. - At first I was disappointed about Fiends going down just 4 points, but rumors say they are +1T now and get a Champion with an extra attack, so there is nothing to complain about. - The Nurgle Changes are OK. I expected the Beasts to go down since I never understood why to take them instead of Drones. Now the Beasts have stayed as they are, but the Drones went up by 4 points. Not ideal, but maybe it will give the Beasts more time on the table (I doubt it but we will see). To make the Spoilpox more expensive was like a no brainer, but plus 20 points seems a bit much, especially since a lot of other characters dropped in price. - A big surprise for me have been the Bloodcrushers. As with the Fiends they need to get changes, but points look untouched. Maybe they got a rule buff as well? - In general I like the fact that all Greater Daemons are a lot cheaper now. The models are awesome but they got killed to fast for their point costs. Now you can either field some more or you stay with just 1 Greater Daemon whithout having a bad feeling about his price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kraken Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 - At first I was disappointed about Fiends going down just 4 points, but rumors say they are +1T now and get a Champion with an extra attack, so there is nothing to complain about. They are +1W, not +1T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshlands Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 I quickly made a list of just greater daemons that came out at almost 2500 points, but is less than 2k with new points. That's significant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skerr Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 My degrading eyes cannot make out the points difference for screamers can someone help a brother out and tell me how many they dropped? I am looking at a demon detachment for my 1k sons with maybe a LOC or Changeling with screamers and splitting horrors. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holier Than Thou Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Does anyone know what changes are in the Bloodcrushers new Datasheet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Nurgle 82 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 I've been looking for the changes on the Bloodcrushers a lot. None of the videos discus the data sheets, but one of them showed the them for a second. With pausing and a lot of squinting I noticed that their wounds went to 4. That's all I got after a few hours of searching and looking at YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holier Than Thou Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 I've been looking for the changes on the Bloodcrushers a lot. None of the videos discus the data sheets, but one of them showed the them for a second. With pausing and a lot of squinting I noticed that their wounds went to 4. That's all I got after a few hours of searching and looking at YouTube. Thanks. Hopefully that’s not all but we’ll see soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheex Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 I haven’t honestly played my 8th Edition ‘Daemonkin’ army in months. Can anyone tell me if (in short) the Khorne Daemon unit’s, including their bloodthirsters became playable as a result of CA? For context I would say they have been extremely lacklustre since release, basically forcing me to pack mine up. Just curious what you guys think. Biggest change is that Bloodthirsters have dropped in points quite significantly (down to 260pts). Skull Cannons also got a drop. They're still just as easy to kill (even easier after the Big FAQ 2, since you can no longer combo Armour of Scorn and Warp Surge for a 3++), but can be a pretty scary T2 deep strike. Back him up with a Bloodletter bomb and you will be putting some massive pressure on the enemy while moving up with Berzerkers. Is it Tier 1 competitive? Nah. But it's fun! I also play a lot of Narrative games, so I'm interested in seeing what kinds of character customisations I can do with the rules in CA. (I know those rules are Open Play, but Narrative games are all about the fun absurdness that is 40k, so I can't see it being a problem.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slan Drakkos Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 With the significantly reduced points on Slaanesh daemons, I think I can finally play them without feeling like I purposely shot myself in the foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbianc Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Slaanesh daemons got points reduction, what about their PL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Slaanesh daemons got points reduction, what about their PL? No changes for PL. It's a flawed system at its core for balance purposes and it seems like GW doesn't really care about supporting it since so few people are using it even in Narrative play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbianc Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 I was asking because it matters for summoning, its really the only time i use them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Well, as I suspected, it's just a bonus on the summoning roll (+3 tho!). Also a chance to regenerate a model in units within 6" on a roll of 6 with 1d6. More interesting however is the definitely strong shooting attack and even more interesting is the Discordant Disruption ability that lets enemy psyker within 24" peril on any(!) doubles. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/12/12/wrath-and-rapture-the-daemons-of-slaaneshgw-homepage-post-1/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Not bad at all, a bit of decent psychic defence goes a long way for me. It makes summoning larger squads more viable too, although a far cry from making summoning actively good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark_elf Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Harmonic Alignment suggests that this herald is not unique so more than 1 is possible. ...anyone in Vancouver BC want to trade the Wrath and Rapture box? I want another set of the Slaanesh half. Happy to do a straight trade so you get double the khorne set of minis :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Well yeah Nurgle got new types of Heralds with fancy names that aren't unique characters as well so it wouldn't surprise me. However I see little reason to take more than one so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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