USNCenturion Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I was thinking about a type of war suit for guardsmen, like a Titanfall titan, an Avatar film exosuit walker, or old Command and Conquer Tiberium Sun wolverines. Something akin to sentinels, but more assault oriented and survivable. I’m thinking a mix of Bullgryn, sentinel, Centurion, and tau crisis suit. Would give guard an alternate play style and a fun 3 suit team kit to play around with. I feel like it may be outside the guard aesthetic and too powerful for a horde army, but I’m interested in opinions on their feasibility, interest, likelihood and idea adjustments. Do we think GW could ever give these as a new unit down the line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Like the guard equivalent of an ork in mega armour? Or a mini Guard NDK a la the Matrix? ;)I think I like the concept, but lore wise I don't think it would fit The Guard at too expendable to put such resources into Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I'm not sure how Guard an assault unit like this would be. The vehicles Guard have are the more traditional affair of tanks and walkers, mounting guns with the intention of evaporating the enemy from a distance so this would be a pretty noticeable divergence. Maybe instead make it more of a close support walker? Something like an armoured walker equipped with potent flamers intending to clear the enemy when they close, all it'd need is a rule that allows it to use the flamers in some way in combat to make it capable in melee - a lot more Guardy but achieving a similar result :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNCenturion Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share Posted October 12, 2018 Yeah it’s a tough call. On the one hand, a unit like this would step on the toes of other similar walkers and suits in other armies, and on the other, a high tech personalized suit isn’t really 40k guardsmen schtick. Maybe have it as an option for the warlord perhaps?? That would open up the Vostroyan or Catachan warlord traits, which I’m certain no one uses outside of Straken. It would also make sense that an imperial commander is important enough to trust with a heavy piece of equipment and valuable enough to protect. In my Titanfall example it really would be like the one pilot leading the rest of the grunts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven 19 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Personally I think that it could be a buffed sentinel for the characters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuardDaddy Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I think it sounds like a great idea - I love the idea of using something as 'count as' You could put a guard char in a grey night suit - I don't know name of it but looks a bit like the robots in matrix 3! Then use Armiger night rules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inso Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 A centurion sized, assault suit, could easily proxy as a Bullgryn (including the weapon options) and it can definitely be explained as some form of gladiatorial, fighting suit that a guard regiment chose to co-opt into their army. Maybe it was a regiment from a hive world that had access to Spyrer tech? Maybe the regiment had a long history fighting Orks and chose to "fight fire, with fire" and create powered suits that held the assaulting Orks at bay for the firing lines to shoot... they could even be a bit like penitent engines with a criminal filled with psychotic chemicals that gets launched forward... The guardsmen of the Empire come from many different backgrounds... there is normally a way to explain things. How about proxying them as Kastellan robots as an allied detachment? The Mechanicus could be the provost controller and the 'suits' could be drugged criminals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Well, Titans in Titanfall are basically Riptides with better melee capabilites and more badass looks. Alternatively, they are more modern looking Knights. To be fair, while it would look awesome, it would overlap a lot of Knights on the Imperial side. However, if they scale it down a bit and create some sort of piloted Dreadnought alternative for Imperial Guard to break up the tank-monotony of the faction, that would be smashin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNCenturion Posted October 14, 2018 Author Share Posted October 14, 2018 I suppose there’s nothing stopping an ambitious commander from converting walker suits, and proxying them as leman Russ tanks, wyverns, devil dogs, hellhounds, or basilisks. They’d even have the crush them stratagem to simulate their combat abilities. I am envisioning a ghostkeel base, and then Imperial’d out somehow. Then slap smoke launchers on the shoulders, put a Russ turret and sponson weapon and in the walkers hands or shoulder, and there you go. Hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 I suppose there’s nothing stopping an ambitious commander from converting walker suits, and proxying them as leman Russ tanks, wyverns, devil dogs, hellhounds, or basilisks. They’d even have the crush them stratagem to simulate their combat abilities. I am envisioning a ghostkeel base, and then Imperial’d out somehow. Then slap smoke launchers on the shoulders, put a Russ turret and sponson weapon and in the walkers hands or shoulder, and there you go. Hmmm I gotchu, fam. Buddy sent me this the other day. Leman Russ tank counts-as. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inso Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 I suppose there’s nothing stopping an ambitious commander from converting walker suits, and proxying them as leman Russ tanks, wyverns, devil dogs, hellhounds, or basilisks. They’d even have the crush them stratagem to simulate their combat abilities. I am envisioning a ghostkeel base, and then Imperial’d out somehow. Then slap smoke launchers on the shoulders, put a Russ turret and sponson weapon and in the walkers hands or shoulder, and there you go. Hmmm I gotchu, fam. Buddy sent me this the other day. Leman Russ tank counts-as. I envisioned something a little more like this for a tank proxy... https://store.warlordgames.com/collections/konflikt-47/products/german-thor-heavy-panzermech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Why did you remind me of the conflict 47 walkers... I have enough gears turning already... Then again I was looking for some alternative stuff for my iron warriors project.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ergonomic Enginseer Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 love the legs and under carriage of that Panzermech model Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamansky Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 What was that word? He... hem...henta... no-no-no. Heretek. That's the word i was looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Nemesis- Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Guard already has several good in-faction melee options. We have Bullgryns, Death Riders, and Sentinel Powerlifters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inso Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Guard already has several good in-faction melee options. We have Bullgryns, Death Riders, and Sentinel Powerlifters. That's true... but there is also the option of being a bit more flamboyant with some proxy stuff... we don't have to follow the status quo all the time... and a bit of variation can look brilliant in an army, if it is done with the right 'flavour' :) ... I use these as Armoured Sentinels, for example: They fulfil a recognised role but, in my opinion, much better fit my army so are better than the existing Sentinel model (obviously, this is personal opinion). Equally, Why not represent an Ogryn with a Gladiatorial suit... a bit like this one?: http://www.scotiagrendel.com/Products/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=217_218_60_75&products_id=3252 If everyone just painted Cadians, it would get a bit boring... building proxies adds variation :) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 You did a good job on the walkers, but the hemispherical heads and short limbs make the walkers look like metal babies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nostromo Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Hmmm... the whole discussion makes me think about something in the direction of a militarized version of the Alien Cargolifter. That might be one of two alternative ways for me to get Bullgryns... And a much more agile and speed-oriented version of walkers could replace rough riders... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inso Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 One like this... but with an armoured front and weapons?: https://www.waylandgames.co.uk/board-games/26569-power-loader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inso Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 You did a good job on the walkers, but the hemispherical heads and short limbs make the walkers look like metal babies. You know some strange babies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nostromo Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Yes, that’s the one I thought about. Essentially, something that makes average Guardsman Johnny bulkier and stronger - but not as sophisticated as an actual mech suit or even power armor. That model might even work as a basis for a conversion... *sigh* I could add that to my list... so something to be addressed around 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 You did a good job on the walkers, but the hemispherical heads and short limbs make the walkers look like metal babies.You know some strange babies... I was going to compare them to SD Gundams, but was concerned few people would get the reference. "Metal babies" is an accurate descriptor for SD Gundams, considering the latter's childish behavior in their own show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Ive had thosr konflict 47 walkers stuck in my mind now... Thanks guys... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven 19 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Maybe Tallarn could have camel riding rough riders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walter h Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 The Penitent Engine, if it was not metal would be another idea. The metal makes it a little more difficult to manipulate at least for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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