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I want to start weathering my templars and doing so while painting my rhinos (lager spaces) seems like a good idea.

So how do you paint chipped black paint? I tried eshin grey with bolt gun metal or a 50/50 Mix of brown and Black in the middle of it and I wasn't really happy.

Googling/searching b&c didn't really help me. Or I am just too bad a painter.

Edited by Marshal Vespasian, 15 October 2018 - 10:48 AM.

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Paint Chips ..... Well I'm a noob at WH but modelling these can be done in a few various ways.  Smallish pieces of sponge dipped in appropriate color then blotted nearly dry then apply as desired. Also during the painting process itself you can use the method which used in moderation can be visually stunning.

 

 

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This is a really good question.

 

There are a number of ways to do this, but you'll eventually probably settle on a couple of techniques:

 

1. Sponge (as stated in the previous post)

2. Fine pointed brush

 

Note: It's important to practice these effects before trying them on your models. Don't rush the technique, learn it.

 

Below is a combination of sponge and fine brush. On my my Templars, I used a terracotta color and I like how that turned out. These chips do not have a highlight line to provide depth on them.

 

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In the next photo, I have used a two level technique where I've applied a dark brown in splotches with a fine brush, then come back with a light grey line to highlight edges and give it some depth.

 

I am going to use this technique when I apply battle damage to my Kill team.

 

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On the next photo, I've applied the terracotta color, but then painted a dull metal interior, which only shows up when light is on it. It's a pretty interesting effect and I like it because it's subtle. I did this for all of my Templar vehicles.

 

 

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I like to use sponge weathering because I don't have confidence in my ability to create natural looking chipping with a paint brush... sponging is great for creating a more random/organic look which works really nicely for weathered and chipped armour. 

 

For the chipped black armour on this mini I first sponged some Rhinoxhide on the areas that I wanted to look chipped and then sponged some Iron Breaker over the top. 

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This marine was simply sponged with some Iron Breaker (no Rhinoxhide).

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This Dark Angle and Raven Guard were also weathered with Iron Breaker sponging.

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I've never painted a black vehicle, but I'm pretty sure it would look good with sponge weathering. The Emperor's Children Rhino was weathered by Rhinoxhide and Iron Breaker sponging. I think the same method could work well on a black scheme.

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Edit: a close up of the Rhino to show off the Rhinoxhide chipping.

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Okay. So chipping by sponging seems like a good idea.

I guess I will Mix up something from brown and Black and then spronge it with vallejo gun metal. Maybe wash it with nuln oil afterwards.
I dont want it to look too rusty as I see my templars venerating their equipment.

Do you just use a kitchen sponge or what works best?

Edited by Marshal Vespasian, 16 October 2018 - 07:45 PM.

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Do you just use a kitchen sponge or what works best?

 

 

I've not tried that before as it doesn't seem granular enough for what we are looking for.

 

What you need is some of the finer "grained" foam that you used to get with GW blisters, but can usually find with foam figure carriers. You don't need a lot, and what  you'll want to do is snip a thin sliver of foam, then pull bits off until you have an irregular shape on the end.

 

Then you want to dab it in paint, then dab/drag the foam on a paper napkin until most of the paint is off, then start dabbing on raised edges.

 

You can simulate a raised edge on a flat surface by just dabbing on an imaginary line to get an effect. Then play around with it until you can easily reproduce the effect you are after.

 

Also note, if you get too much of the chipping color on the targeted area, dab over parts of it with your base color until you get a more visually pleasing shape.

 

This technique is a lot of  fun, so enjoy yourself.

 

@kizzdougs: Awesome stuff bro!


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So a rough sponge and then dab on a metal color and then a dark brown color, got it, thank you. I'll try it out on my rhinos first and then on some models.

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So a rough sponge and then dab on a metal color and then a dark brown color, got it, thank you. I'll try it out on my rhinos first and then on some models.

No, the other way around! Dark brown and then the metal colour :tu:

 

Also, the sponge doesn't have to be too rough. I use a small piece torn off from the padding in an old blister pack and I use the more regular side of the sponge rather than the rough/torn edge. I think most people like to use the rough side, but I don't. I'll take a picture of how I do it when I get home :)


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Here are the pics that I promised.

 

The blister pack foam. 

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I tore off a small piece.

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I like to use tweezers to hold the sponge. It's not essential, but I feel like it gives me a lot more control than I'd have if I just used my fingers :tu:

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And a more Templar friendly pic of the effect.

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On larger models you could try hairspray weathering, that's how I did my knight:

 

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Thank you for the tips already.

 

So I finished my two rhinos up to a standard that I can live with. I am never again going to paint vehicles with brushes or at least not the larger parts of them. That is an oath I take as a brother of the Eternal Crusade.

 

I briefly tried sponge weathering with two puzzeling things:

a) the brown did almost nothing but kind of blurring and muffeling my edgehighlight

B) the metallic looked kind of cool, but it was a complete layer. so not single spots of chipped paint, where rocks or similar things hit it, but a complete layer that kind of feathered out. I guess that is a case of too much colour on the sponge?

 

oh and question c) with brown it will look like rust, correct? If I used red as a first colour for example it would look like the black and white was sprayer over a red primer, correct?

 

Thank you already, you have all been incredibly helpful. The next step will be to use these techniques on an infantry model. Once I get good resulst on my rhinos.


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You want to treat sponging like a dry brush almost. What you describe seems to be too much paint on it. As I'm sure you know by now, start very light and add to it in successive layers.

 

If a bit of rust before the metal is what you'd like, try the Ryza Rust using the sponge tecnique. I haven't done it personally, but it would probably show up better than Rinox Hide.


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