TEMPESTOR 6773 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Evening all was just wondering what people would like to see added to the militarum tempestus Scions if games workshop ever decided to add a bit more meat to the bones of this tiny little force. I was thinking maybe some sort of sentinel varient or possibly a heavy weapons team style option both of which could pretty easily be achieved with a upgrade sprue to use the existing kits maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Welcome to the B&C :) A Sentinel would be good, matches their recon role but it'd need to be decent. Scions have weedy enough vehicles in the Taurox :P Perhaps a specialist gunship to support them too, though I'd settle for improvements to Valkyries (also: Vendettas)! I don't think there's that much you can add within the "spec ops" theme, so options may be limited. In theory this would be best represented by rules but that's a different kettle of fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK0SIAN Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Like Warrior Fish says, it’s hard to think of stuff that’s fits with the special ops/highly mobile troops that scions are. However one thing I think that could fit and I would like to see would be a sniper/marksman unit, but one that was actually a threat to whatever it shoots at, not like most snipers in the game :) As for vehicles, I’d be tempted to go classic SAS style jeeps with a heavy weapon, obviously made to look more suitable for 40k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micahwc Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 An artillery spotter. Demo charges. Vendetta rules upgrade. Plastic Vulture gunship and Vendetta upgrade sprue. Melta grenades for the grenade launcher with a bit more punch than Krak grenades. Edit: Phase the Elysian drop trooper stuff into the Scion codex. Scion missile teams sound intriguing. The Elysian vehicles would fit right in with only minor changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEMPESTOR 6773 Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share Posted October 29, 2018 To be fair I would be happy if one day they just gave us the option to crew scout sentinels with Scions and a small clamp pack blister pack with a Scion crewman to sit in it just to give me something else to paint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
librisrouge Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I'm mostly echoing others here but I'd like the following: An operative of some kind (or assassin rules that allow them to share detachments) Gunship updates/upgrades (the vendetta especially) "Light" heavy weapon specialists Optional rules to field them as Inquisitorial Storm Troopers Grenadier themed upgrades or options, not just having krak grenades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xisor Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 You'll no-doubt have seen the Sisters of Silence, but depending on your FW familiarity - have you seen the dual-pistols ones? https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Sisters-of-Silence-Prosecutor-Cadre-Upgrade-Set-2017 Scions, but a bit more action-packed and thrilling. (Though I also like their tooled-up carrying the kitchen sink feel too, so a bit more of both could be very neat.) I could see something like that being a lot of fun. Less heavy armour, more svelte and sleek (and possibly still a bit baroque). So the hotshot lasguns would be dropped to more exotic pistols, intriguing guns (e.g. webbers, grav pistols, needle weapons), maybe some cooler high-tech shields & combat weapons - that sort of stuff. I've a vague memory that some of the big background-y books (13th Black Crusade, War for Armageddon, Codex: Eye of Terror) mentioned esoteric or fancy-sabotage/espionage elements of the Departmento Munitorum - if they were explored as part of the Tempestus Scions 'brand' (visually, if not strictly a part of the Scions themselves - the organisations might be a bit distinct, but very frequently in concert for combined-arms and spec-ops stuff). Similarly, for a missile launcher (or other Guard-level 'exotic' weapons), getting in some of the fun old missiles could be need - rad, viral and flakk missiles, say. Could be a lot of fun, especially with the direction many of the Rogue Trader-y models have taken. Fascinating, fun and useful, but also still without really treading on the toes of the Adeptus Mechanicus or Astartes. High end, but fundamentally human for the setting. (Militarising and formalising a lot of the stuff in the Necromunda range would be cool. Tempestus Scions wielding hotshot lasgun 'autogun spears' like the new Cawdor gangers have! A sort of halfway between the Cawdors and the HH ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 a melee unit that can roll with dual pistols / Pistol + Power Weapon, with options of Pistol + Power fist on Sargent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairence Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Something similar to the Corvus Blackstar would be great. The Valkyrie is a great transport, but just doesn't cut it as a fire support flier. Also, Hotshot Volleyguns need to become Assault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrZakalwe Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 The big one for me would be drop their cost by 1 point then allow them to purchase a 1 point upgrade that allows them to deepstrike. Would make them a bit more usable in any role other than drop troop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robofish7591 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I actually like scions how they are for the most part. I think if they need anything, a special character or another type of HQ could be cool. Maybe having an "assault" squad with 12 inch range assault 2 hot shot carbines and melee weapons. I think some kind of scion marksman squad could be cool, a full squad with some more powerful long las rifles to provide cover for the rest of the troops, kind of like the elysian sniper teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
librisrouge Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I actually like scions how they are for the most part. I think if they need anything, a special character or another type of HQ could be cool. Maybe having an "assault" squad with 12 inch range assault 2 hot shot carbines and melee weapons. I think some kind of scion marksman squad could be cool, a full squad with some more powerful long las rifles to provide cover for the rest of the troops, kind of like the elysian sniper teams I think that this could be combined with my "grenadier" style squad idea. Perhaps a squad equipped with krak grenades (and meltabombs on the sarge) and the ability to use them in melee. A carbine version of the hot-shot would be a sick addition too and maybe some kind of boarding shields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEMPESTOR 6773 Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 I really like the sniper idea would be cool if they had some kind of large calibre anti tank rifle and worked in pairs, I also really like the idea of paying for deep strike as I run my Scions fully mechanised and almost never deepstrike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicHat Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Sentinel upgrade kit with twin hot shot volley gun. Hot shots to gain different firing modes. Assault 3 range 12 0ap. Current rapid fire. 24" heavy 1 s4 ap0 sniper. Volley gun is twice the shots, +1 strength, +6". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momerathe Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 It'd be nice to be able to fill out a brigade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mertbl Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 I'd like to see stormtroopers with the rifle AND the pistol/chainsword come back, 3rd ed guard book? Gunships would be cool,give it 2 twin hot shot volley guns. Something like dark eldar rule of its assault if it's on a vehicle. Snipers seem like a no brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inso Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 The obvious one would be a couple of special characters for them. Some sort of light robot ( a bit like 'Big Dog' but without the noise) for carrying kit and maybe being the base unit for a weapon support drone (being a good way for carrying a heavy weapon without movement penalty). Definitely some sort of small flier for insertion/extraction and that has good fire support options (maybe with a 5 or 6 troop capacity). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kontakt Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Drop sentinels, sniper teams, BS 3+ valkyries. A heavy support option (does not need to be a tank). Inquisition rules. Cheaper cost to counter how much less useful deep strike is, cheaper taurox prime (its overcosted, especially the missile launcher). 24 inch range HS lasguns, seriously... what is the scope for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expendable_Aquanaut Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Haha yes. Those scopes on an 18 inch range gun make no sense. The ability to rapid fire after deep strike would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEMPESTOR 6773 Posted December 3, 2018 Author Share Posted December 3, 2018 Just really seems like a no brainer to have some sort of sentinal variant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEMPESTOR 6773 Posted December 3, 2018 Author Share Posted December 3, 2018 I notice that bullgryns seem to always be floating around scions artwork and fluff so maybe an additional order for tempestor primes to make bullgryns re roll charges or advance moves maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
librisrouge Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I would like to see a special detachment rule for drop trooper regiments... *internally loses mind* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye252 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Two changes I'd like are bringing their range back to 24" and the addition of some sort of recon vehicle for them. Could even be an sentinel with hotshot volley guns like mentioned in earlier in the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 A point drop would be nice too with the changes to reserves and deep strike Also I dont think you should have to pay for HSLG or pistols Unless their range is increased Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrZakalwe Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 A point drop would be nice too with the changes to reserves and deep strike Also I dont think you should have to pay for HSLG or pistols Unless their range is increased I quite like having to pay for the HSLG as it means if you switch weapons you don't have to pay it (so a weapon swap is cheaper). It's definitely a gun worth paying a point for (if I could give my normal IG it at 5ppm I would put it on quite a few squads). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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