Galron Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 They can borrow a lot from Elysians to make them a full force. Sniper team squads, drop sentinels, Taurus vehicles. Most importantly, we need a flippin' extra HQ unit. Cant remember if commissars count for our detachment. Would be nice to be able to bring two battalions or a brigade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainMarsh Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Scions no longer pay for the HSLG or HSLP. We can also see all but one element (a Strategem) of the Drop Force. It is good if you use Valks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Nice to see a drop for Stormies even if only a little :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trickstick Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Scions no longer pay for the HSLG or HSLP. We can also see all but one element (a Strategem) of the Drop Force. It is good if you use Valks! Saw the second one: 1cp, if keyword infantry is charged within 6" of keyword valk, 1 valk gets to overwatch on unmodified 4+. Not bad. Door gunners are worth it in that formation now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 A point drop would be nice too with the changes to reserves and deep strike Also I dont think you should have to pay for HSLG or pistols Unless their range is increased Called it :D Now I wonder we can get their ranges increased to 10"/20" 6"/18" is painful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trickstick Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 A point drop would be nice too with the changes to reserves and deep strike Also I dont think you should have to pay for HSLG or pistols Unless their range is increased Called it Now I wonder we can get their ranges increased to 10"/20" 6"/18" is painful I'm beginning to thing a drop valk is the way to go with scions now. You can drop on turn 1 and get within 9" too. Add to that the fact that valks went down in pts and got that overwatch thing. Will have to decide if it is worth taking a 10 man squad and a non-rod prime in a valk for turn 1 fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairence Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 What overwatch thing did the Valkyrie get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trickstick Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 What overwatch thing did the Valkyrie get? 1cp stratagem, a valk can overwatch for a unit within 6". 4+ to hit, ignores modifiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 I was thinking that maybe with an psyker for extra firepower Would have to be their own scion RD detachment to make the most of it Either battalion or patrol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trickstick Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 An astropath is cheap and let's you ignore cover. Or an officer of the fleet, which would buff the valk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 I think something akin to the Tauros would be fitting, even if armoured up more. It would help emphasise the Scion's role as the Guard's special forces and their capacity for lightning strikes. Forge World squatted them anyway, so seeing some spruced up versions for the Scions and lighter ones for the Regulars would be nice. If GSC get bikers, Guard could receive smaller quads so it's not a total 1:1 rip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trickstick Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Well that's almost exactly what a Taurox Prime is, it just get's transport capacity. I guess what it really needs is a way to mitigate the -1 to hit after moving thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainMarsh Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 I remember that the Venator ignores the -1 to hit for moving and gets a 5+ invulnerable if it moves more than 10 inches.I once had an idea for a Taurox HS choice. Feel free to looksee:http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339738-taurox-aggressor-wip-militarum-tempestus-tank/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'm Heckus Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 If we’re dreaming, I’d go for some new toys only available in Scion detachments. HQ: Inquisitional Advisor, gets a fun gun with option for close or long range, provides morale bonus to nearby Scions and comes with 3 servoskulls for DS pushback. Elite: Hotshot sniper squad with camocloaks, -2 AP sniper rifles, and grappling gear to get into position. Maybe an option to have one guy carry a one-shot missile tube in addition to his usual gun (LAW/hunter-killer missile on a dude). Make scion medic and standard bearer elite stand alone characters like space marines have. Fast Attack: 2-man scion sentinel with underslung HSVG and a gunners heavy weapon or something experimental. Gets a scout move instead of deep strike probably. Cyber K-9 squad?? Heavy: some kind of demolitions team (still working in this one). Maybe democharges and light rocket tubes of some kind. Flier: “gnat” gunship. Small and fast to provide air support for the Valkyries like a Stormtalon but smaller. Underslung HSVGs or ACs with some tiny missiles or mini punishers that the taurox has. Drops low strength cluster bombs as it flies over. Just ideas... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNCenturion Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1. Additional plasma gun model pose 2. Not really sure it’s their schtick but a sniper type squad or weapon 3. Underslung grenade launcher option for the hot shot rifle 4. Underslung shotgun option for the hot shot rifle 5. Drop capable medium support vehicle or crew served weapon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1. Additional plasma gun model pose This so much this! Actually the whole new kit thats less monopose would be nice... but highly doubt as that seems to be the way going forward Which is a shame so many wasted bits otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trickstick Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Monopose can be fine. I use Kasrkin for my Scions. The thing is, those special weapons have a very basic stance, just a guy carrying a gun. Having four of them together doesn't look weird. That is not the case with the weird-side-hold plasma gun in the Scion kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triszin Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 The obvious one would be a couple of special characters for them. Some sort of light robot ( a bit like 'Big Dog' but without the noise) for carrying kit and maybe being the base unit for a weapon support drone (being a good way for carrying a heavy weapon without movement penalty). Definitely some sort of small flier for insertion/extraction and that has good fire support options (maybe with a 5 or 6 troop capacity). I would like to chime in. yes. Also from the netflix movie Spectral- - One load out was basically a mule for equipment + a enchanced targeting/early warning system. -- maybe something like on a roll of a 6 the mule boosts overwatch rolls for the squad to 5+? - the other load out was a artillery, mortar/missle system. I would love to see scions get a robotic mule dog as a helper, just they need to be "big" like in spectral. when its on all 4's its like 6 feet tall. http://pre07.deviantart.net/b403/th/pre/i/2017/003/6/e/final_mech_design_for_the_movie_spectral_by_vyle_art-dau509l.jpg in action https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az1J2TidIFU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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