Excessus Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 On my phone, but did you guys see the new model on the community site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Abaia Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I love that new Sorcerer! (Dark Apostle maybe?) I got some real strong Black Phillip vibes off of him, if anybody's seen the Witch. Even if he's a Black Legion only character I'm picking him up regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 spoiler for largish image: More signs of a forthcoming Black Legion release. I’m still skeptical of the rumored idea of a separate Black Legion codex, both in terms of being skeptical that that's what's actually happening, as opposed to black legion just getting some focus in a campaign release, and skeptical of it being a good idea even if it does happen. I still feel like it would have been better to finish out the cult legions first and save the big black legion releases for a revamp of the base CSM codex proper after that, even if it did mean waiting an extra year or so, but that said ... I absolutely cannot help but get excited for models as cool as this for my preferred faction. I don’t know what this guy is - new named character? Sorcerer? Dark Apostle? Some sort of combination of the two? In all likelihood this is either a named black legion sorcerer or an new generic chaos sorcerer model, but regardless of what exactly it represents in game, I know I want one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadass Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I absolutely cannot help but get excited for models as cool as this for my preferred faction. I don’t know what this guy is - new named character? Sorcerer? Dark Apostle? Some sort of combination of the two? In all likelihood this is either a named black legion sorcerer or an new generic chaos sorcerer model, but regardless of what exactly it represents in game, I know I want one. I can only echo that sentiment. What a model! Not sure how I feel about him floating, but I'm sure that can be fixed if the need arises. I think that guy's a step up from the Haarken model designwise - I can only hope that this also goes for his usefulness on the tabletop... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Given how much better jump sorcerers are than regular style - particularly since we /still/ don't have non-FW transports capable of moving a full squad of 10 (or the now ubiquitous two squads of 5) *and* an independant character - I personally think that floating pose is just begging for a backpack swap with either a raptor jump pack or one of the winged possessed packs. You'd sadly lose those nice flaming skull trophy spikes in the conversion, but it's not like that's a bit that would go to waste. Slap that sucker on the DV chosen champ with the power maul that everyone already uses as a dark apostle to really sell the counts-as. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightmare Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 So excited. I really like this guy, more so than Haarken. This galaxy is goin’ to be a-burnin’ :devil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted January 5, 2019 Author Share Posted January 5, 2019 I'd bet against us getting a Black Legion codex. But with the news that Index Astartes alternates between 40k - Sigmar - 40k (etc), that would mean that March is a 40k slot, and perhaps indicates a possible Index Astartes: Black Legion release in the same month as Vigilus part II drops with Abaddon and pals. The only real question now is whether we're getting new units alongside these characters. Characters are great, and this is all extremely promising, but the Chaos range needs a full overhaul, not a lick of paint. But I'm sure GW know this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Given how much better jump sorcerers are than regular style - particularly since we /still/ don't have non-FW transports capable of moving a full squad of 10 (or the now ubiquitous two squads of 5) *and* an independant character - I personally think that floating pose is just begging for a backpack swap with either a raptor jump pack or one of the winged possessed packs. You'd sadly lose those nice flaming skull trophy spikes in the conversion, but it's not like that's a bit that would go to waste. Slap that sucker on the DV chosen champ with the power maul that everyone already uses as a dark apostle to really sell the counts-as. I'd probably just model some arcane aura stuff on his base and say that he can fly thanks to magic. That lets me use him just as fine as footslogging sorcerer for when GW takes the JP option away for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearson73 Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Certainly an excellent model, hopefully a great sign of things to come! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebs_evo7 Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Anyone seen the sneaky talon in the corner of the sorcerer pic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonoftherubric21 Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Well we know for a fact he is not the "Generic Sorcerer" because his backpack is not a match for the one shown in the Rumor Engine from October. (I think it was october..) So he is either an Apostle, a new character type, OR a named unique character for Black Legion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 He doesn't seem to have the book either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaliGn Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 I'm looking at all these new Chaos character models and thinking you, like that bit, want to change that bit, switch that bit and so forth, the more of them that come out the more I want to swap parts between them so current plans: Obvious Mallex with the new guy's backpack and staff head and a head swap to create a revised version of my word bearers Dark apostle. New guy plus haarken's jump pack and either Mallex's hammer head for a chaos smash captain look or a staff head from the thousand suns range to make a jump sorcerer. I'm sure that as more of this range is revealed then more ideas will arrive. I do believe there will be more of a range in time as there is clearly a design language that he are applying consistently to these models that would indicate they are developing a range rather than just one offs. As an aside I have a hunch that Mallex will get a standalone release in due course as he is the only model in Blackstone fortress on his own sprue so would be easy to stick in a blister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayniac Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 I suspect that the new model will be another named guy for Black Legion. Maybe in Vigilus 2. I'm hopeful for a Chaos Space Marines codex revamp, but we could be going into the realm of codex supplements again now that basically all of the actual codexes are going to be out soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadass Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 A friend of mine pointed the upper right corner of the open day's poster out to me: Hidden Content Eighty days... I hope we're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Dicko Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Since this seems to be the place for reading signs and numerology... could t help but notice 13 visible skulls on this guy, 14 if that’s one in his hand. Correspondence to the black crusades? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadass Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Yeah, that object in his hand is indeed a skull - I don't think they serve any purpose beyond looking fancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted January 6, 2019 Author Share Posted January 6, 2019 Not to mention the fact that the 13th Black Crusade is still ongoing, so yeah. I wouldn't read into the numbers of skulls on a GW model. That way lies madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlover Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 My prediction for floaty-goat is that he's a Dark Apostle that'll be able to cast one psychic power a turn. Dragonlover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheex Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Jes Goodwin even made fun of the number of skulls they use in GW's own podcast ;) This is a very cool model. Likely to be a sorcerer of some kind, since he's levitating and all, and the flaming skull seems too specific to be a generic character. Zaraphiston or Ygethmor, maybe? Khayon says both are titles rather than names. Either way, probably be a few weeks before we learn any more about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayniac Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 I just hope they don't make him as terrible as Haarken. A completely wasted opportunity with that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Rules-wise or model-wise? Because I like the model quite a bit even if his rules are barely worth mentioning. ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayniac Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Rules-wise or model-wise? Because I like the model quite a bit even if his rules are barely worth mentioning. ^^ Rules. The model is really cool, just his rules are so bad that I really question what the hell GW was thinking even printing them. Like what did they actually expect him to do with such lackluster stats? If his spear had a good melee profile, he might have been like a cool hero hunter. But they didn't even GIVE it a melee profile for some crazy reason. Boggles the mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 It's not like his profile is that bad. It's slightly better than a dual claw lord. It's just that it's really just that. He's barely more than a regular lord and his buff aura unfortunately happens to target a unit that's pretty bad currently. If Raptors were good he'd be a much more interesting choice. I agree on the spear tho. I expected a lot more of it. I'd be fine with it being a ranged weapon even if it had good stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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