grailkeeper Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Someone in a facebook group I am in posted this picture. I don't know where he got them and they could well be home made or made by some third party manufacturer. If that's so they have done a bang up job. This doesnt look like a normal GW sprue and its odd that the models are not in pieces. That said these could be something new and if not they at least look nice. Edit: He said he got them in a trade after 5 years of looking. Probably not something new. Apologies mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vykes Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Dunno, those are definitely casts (the bodies are the now OOP Kasrkin) but I can't place the arms and the heads could come from a few different sets that look like the later pewter/finecast sets (they look about the right size as my Masters of the Chapter set I was working on today). All in all, they look like pretty unique pieces. Pretty cool to tell you the truth, and jealous :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarabando Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 ive seen these before but for the life of me i cant remember where. I think they are unreleased minis that they do for testing new sculptors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyadventurer Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 ive seen these before but for the life of me i cant remember where. I think they are unreleased minis that they do for testing new sculptors. Yeah they are old Kasrkin test sculpts or something. They've been around for years (https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer/comments/zugsp/unreleased_kasrkin_resins_show_up_on_ebay/) Even cooler than the already super cool Kasrkin minis. Who needs Guilliman, a few more of these sculpts around and Cadia would never have fallen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnkyHamHam Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Those are FW cadian Vets with shotguns. Used to be sold on FW. Don't know if they discontinued them or not. EDIT: Nevermind, I looked again and they are not Vets. Different shotguns. And definitely a Kasarkin level of armor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 The shotgun vets were multi-part conversion kits with a completely new style of shotgun and not the old space marine style. Going on top of regular Cadian legs without the Kasrkin extra armor plates visible on the above minis, they're definitely not the old vets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 I'm moving this to the Astra Militarum forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irbis Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Even cooler than the already super cool Kasrkin minis. Who needs Guilliman, a few more of these sculpts around and Cadia would never have fallen. You mean bootleg, dodgy conversions turned into recasts and sold for insane prices? Take a look at the pictures of these in the reddit link: https://imgur.com/a/JVz4O#0 Very first one spells 'KSARKIN'. Yup, that sure sounds legit. But take a look at the storm bolter gunner: Then this: http://www.coolminiornot.com/pics/pics15/img4d41a92d3fde1.jpg What do we see? Sarge stripes on thigh (oops), identical left chest plate, very similar head, same helmet, only moved to his left side, his right hand has different style plate (probably taken from SM scout) and meets the forearm at weird angle, but the most damning bit is this: Hmm, I think I saw that storm bolter somewhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 I agree that that those kasrkin are not official, but there's no way the storm bolter guy is based on the sgt and I have some experience in the matter, having turned this: into this: The head is different (similar, I'll give you), legs are different, feet are different, the blousing of the pants and armor plates are different, and the sgt stripes actually look better than they do on the official model. On top of that, the recaster would have had to grind away the grenades on the belt, cut the figure in half to reposition the chest, and then sculpt all that destroyed detail back in. Most likely, it's a conversion made from plastic Cadian parts with a space marine scout shotgun handle and action mated with the vehicle stormbolter and a plastic assault gunner left arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irbis Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Um, he wouldn't need to grind anything. Seeing he is capable of making one pretty convincing cast, all he needed was to add one extra step, make cast of kasrkin sarge and chop/repose that up, then make final cast off that. Plus, after a second look, it looks to me he actually used flamer operator as a top of his body, only giving him sarge backpack and lower half: Note position of straps and both arms - it's identical, down to position of plate connecting the gun to strap. He just cut the flamer off, glued SM bolter in its place, and put helmet where the traces left by pipe cutting would be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Um, he wouldn't need to grind anything. Yes, he would have. If you had cut, chopped, and ground parts of metal figures away as much as I have, you would know this. I agree it's most likely fake and not an unreleased mini as some google searching claims it to be, but it's obviously not based on the sergeant figure and simply looking between the two should be evidence enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Titanz0r Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Very first one spells 'KSARKIN'. Yup, that sure sounds legit. Hmm, I think I saw that storm bolter somewhere... To be fair, the official Kasrkin models are spelled 'KSARKIN' on the slot, as well. http://www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/images/b/b6/Cardian_Kasrkin_3.jpg Bits and designs are re-used all the time, as well. Such as the plasma gun being used for the Space Marines and the Guard command squads. http://i63.tinypic.com/14o4qq0.jpg Yet, however much of a bootleg model this may be, Kasrkin are still awesome. I'd want some more uniquely designed kasrkin models. It's a shame GeeDubs stopped producing the ones they had. I'm not sure why you're so upset about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEMPESTOR 6773 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 It would be amazing if games workshop released a supplement for the inquisition and remade some of these sculpts as adeptus arbites or inquisitoral stormtroopers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypher226 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 These were test sculpts done in the studio absolutely years ago (probably around the time the original Kasrkin came out), I remember seeing them at an open day in a cabinet, along with the unreleased 40k pirates and female ratskin :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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