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[Adeptus Titanicus] New warlord kit, cerastus knights, RoB

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Up on WHC. Gotta say, lumping the new weapon sprue in with a fresh warlord is irritating. Better than resin upgrades, probably, but not that happy about it, particularly when the bits market for AT seems to be practically non-existent. Fingers crossed on a separate weapon sprue release that actually, y'know, takes advantage of the magnetisation capability they promoted for the warlord, but not holding my breath.

 

Glad to see the lancers make an appearance though. Good that they're not mixed in with other cerastus variants too (lancer cerastus best cerastus), though they're a little static.

 

In the months since Adeptus Titanicus: The Horus Heresy was launched, tabletops across the world have shaken beneath the tread of mighty war-engines. Battlegroups comprising Warlord, Reaver and Warhound Titans, alongside Questoris Knight allies, have fought hard and valiantly, and will soon be rewarded with reinforcements – and new battlefields to fight over.

You’ll be able to add a differently armed Warlord Titan to your maniples, with the release of a new version of the plastic kit, complete with a pair of Sunfury plasma annihilators – high-powered plasma weapons capable of burning through even Titan armour – and an optional Arioch Titan power claw, for those Princeps who want to get up close and personal. The kit also comes with a pair of carapace-mounted laser blasters and two choices of head.

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Alongside the Warlord will be a new option for your Household Support Banners – Cerastus Knight Lancers. Armed with deadly shock lances and protected by ion gauntlet shields, these Knights come in a set of two, with various arm and head options. They’ll add speed and hard-hitting, close-ranged force to your battlegroup, and between their shields and improved carapace, they’re harder to kill than their Questoris brethren.

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Also coming soon are a pair of resin Realm of Battle boards designed for Adeptus Titanicus: The Horus Heresy. Civitas District War Zone Alpha and Civitas District War Zone Beta both represent war-torn urban areas on Imperial worlds. They feature roads blocked by abandoned siegeworks, sculpted buildings, and areas to add plastic Civitas Imperialis scenery to personalise your boards.

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All of these new additions to Adeptus Titanicus: The Horus Heresy will be available later this month – keep an eye out for more information. In the meantime, if you want to get started with the game, check out the Rules Set and existing miniatures, such as the mighty Reaver Titan and doughty Questoris Knights.

 


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Seen a lot of hate for the full kit decision on the Warlord and I fully understand it.

 

However should have probably been seen coming with how FW are releasing things these days. Plus it was probably the best way to turn a profit and keep them in plastic.

 

As someone who isn't yet into the Titanicus hobby it's neither here nor there for me.

 

Those mini Cerastus Knights are AWESOME though!!!!



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I'm excited to see more options like this! I hope the Kit comes with two plasma balsters and an Arioc though. I'm not fond of CCW on titans.

 

 

Edit: Oh awesome, just read the 'pair' part!


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As someone without a Warlord yet - it doesn't bother me that much that they put the new weapons into a new kit but I can see why some folks are annoyed. Wonder when the third kit will appear with Macro Gatling Cannons/Quake Cannons? Suppose I can get this one and the basic one eventually though :) 


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If FW was just honest with the CS base then it probably wouldn't sting as much. Seems like every release that is FW feels more and more like a punch to the chops, weather its lack of options or rules, horrible bundling decision or just like oh this came out way past when it should have and the usefulness/ game support has drawn down. At this point, im just like hurry up and announce that you are no longer in business and are now rolled into GW Proper.
On the release though, since no one is playing AT where I am now, I'll probably get this at some point way in the future.
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Hmmmm. Bit annoying as I have an unbuilt Warlord from the GME and I was expecting just a new weapon/head sprue. As long as they are still magnetisable, I'll get over it. Been looking forward to the sunfury. 

 

Very excited to see more knights already though!

 

Edit: I wonder if the claw can be a fist also?


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Hopefully an upgrade kit will appear in the near future

Tbh you could buy the new Warlord from a discounter, sell the Warlord sprues on eBay for a reasonable price to help recoup the cost and keep the weapons


I'll be ordering a set of Knights, looking forward to that.

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Yes, the Mars-Beta head - my favourite Warlord head variant! Very happy.


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To ask behalf of others. Is new warlord kit and knights, plastic and from GW or forgeworld only?


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To ask behalf of others. Is new warlord kit and knights, plastic and from GW or forgeworld only?

The warlord is plastic. The article doesn't specifically say but I'm 99% sure the new Cerastus Knights are too.

 

They are Specialist games products so GW store don't have them in stock but you can order them however, your FLGS can stock them (unlike Forgeworld). Mine's usually got a box of each AT release in stock at all times.


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I mean this it it, if you bought and built the GM box you have two warlords already, presumably built with the (inflexible, not fantastic) twin belicosa loadout. Even if they're magnetised, it's going to stick in your craw that you need to get another full warlord for the sake of some weapon variation. And that after even on the preview videos they were justifiably proud of the effort they'd gone to in making the warlord magnetisable.

Irritating. You can see the FW facebook team in damage control mode, which leads to inadvertently hilarious lines like "The box with the new weapons will have the Warlord in too."

 

As is, I have one warlord and took care magnetising it specifically because I wanted a versatile model at the centre of my axiom maniple. Unless a separate sprue/pack is released or the bits aftermarket sellers get in on this, I'm just going to reappraise the 3rd party kits and/or look at fashioning a sunfury-analogue weapon (let's call it an Incaladion-pattern plasma annihilator) from that redemptor dreadnought gun.

 

Oh well. At least the Mars-beta head looks good. It mentions that the new sprue comes with two heads, I wonder what the variant will be? Maybe a 'closed grill' version?


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You're right to be unhappy about it - I've seen with my own eyes Andy Hoare and other FW/Specialist games staff on FB specifically state that there was going to be a weapon upgrade sprue. I'm not surprised though.Specialist games has consistently made poor decisions like this. I'm not sure if they're sensible decisions from a business standpoint, but they're clearly not putting the customers first, which in a hobby that costs this much leaves much to be desired.

 

That being said, if the second head in the box is this, I will squeal with joy:

 

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People are not going to buy another full titan just for the weapons. If you have two in your maniple you would have to buy two new warlords every time they bring out a main gun or carapace weapon. Who is making the business decisions there right now, do they want people to print their own?


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To be fair guys, we don't know if the sprue itself might come as a separate web order option. They are just announcing this kit. Which to be honest, I would buy if I was gonna grab 2 for a Myrmidon Maniple, Id get one of each and mix the plasma and volcano cannons.


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The general reception to this news is negative, and that's being reflected on the FB page.

 

Hopefully it'll teach FW to be clear with what they mean. The words "Weapon Upgrade Packs" were thrown around by Andy a lot, especially during the special stream they had for Titanicus too.


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You're right to be unhappy about it - I've seen with my own eyes Andy Hoare and other FW/Specialist games staff on FB specifically state that there was going to be a weapon upgrade sprue. I'm not surprised though.Specialist games has consistently made poor decisions like this. I'm not sure if they're sensible decisions from a business standpoint, but they're clearly not putting the customers first, which in a hobby that costs this much leaves much to be desired.

 

I think it's annoying because it's because it is so clearly a raw deal for folks who did take the plunge at the start and go for the GM kit right, buying into AT in a big way and finding they need a further £65 kit to differentiate their existing models by wargear. I don't want to re-litigate all that stuff about the GM box being meant for two players and I'm not one of the folks who bought it... but dang, it sucks.

 

You're right that it's a characteristically Specialist Games sort of decision; the forthcoming Necromunda book isn't exactly the same situation but is similarly a decision that is pretty poor for existing customers. This is solid if you're going for a Myrmidon maniple, as Rohr says, but otherwise it's not great. Looking at this pattern, I'm going to hold off on my Reaver purchase in case we get a chainfist/melta cannon combo kit.

 

RE: heads: that would be pretty cool and does not seem impossible. It's the most obviously old-school of the heads - close to the old plastic AT one - and could do with a reappearance.  Something I never noticed about that photo though is that it has mixed carapace weapons, a laser blaster and a missile launcher, just like the old AT game. Odd considering that seems to have been dropped even for the 40k titan.



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Seems like yet another dick move from Forgeworld, promise weapon sprues, fail to mention they come with a whole 'nother titan...


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I would have bought the sprue, but seeing as how I want 3 Ordo Sinister warlords, now I know not to buy anything until they release a specific kit for that, as I would need 3 of the psi-weapons anyway.  Unless anyone know of any good pics of the psi-weapon that I can try to replicate...?



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People are not going to buy another full titan just for the weapons. If you have two in your maniple you would have to buy two new warlords every time they bring out a main gun or carapace weapon. Who is making the business decisions there right now, do they want people to print their own?

Yeah, I shilled out for a Grand Master and every release since, only to get dicked over like that. And TWICE, once as a hobbyist and once as a Studio, because if I wanted to paint them and sell them online, now my "Grand Master Edition" Warlords are subpar to what everyone else and their Mom gets.

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Yeah, there’s nothing here precluding them releasing the sprue as a separate option later (or even at the same time) - but the lack of any news on that while dropping a full Warlord kit first when the expectation they have been building for a year plus is “Hey it’s designed for use with magnets so you can get the weapon packs for more options” makes for some terrible optics. Especially for the Warlord, as most people will already have all the Warlord chassis they were planning on getting.
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They look gorgeous. But my already pretty empty wallet is crying … happy I didn't succumb to buying more models in the meantime ...

 

"Worst" fears seem to materialise, unless they also plan to make the weapon sprues available separately (but still that would be £20ish for a single sprue).

 

Curious to see the price for the cerastus knights (only 2 in a set) > £15???



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Quite excited for those Cerastus knights. I think it’d be quite fun to build my planned 6 cerastus army in miniature, while I very slowly progress towards the full thing.

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Miffed about the release approach – though hopeful that the weapon sprue will be released separately sooner rather than later (or worse, not at all!). 

 

Besides that, a few neat little details we can glean: 

– Arioch Power Claw has a Vulcan Mega-bolter on the back – perhaps an update/alternative to the version on the card, which lacks a ranged attack?

– Mars-Beta head confirmed; but note that the heraldic shields match those of the unreleased prototype, rather than those supplied with the Mars Beta. I'm hopeful, therefore that the sprue contains both heads, rather than two variants of the Mars Beta (i.e. as per the original model).

– The implication of this sprue is that there's a third weapon sprue on its way. I'll refine my earlier prediction as: two Quake Cannons, one Gatling blaster; paired Carapace Galting Blasters; the Lucius-pattern head and a fourth new design of head.


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Miffed about the release approach – though hopeful that the weapon sprue will be released separately sooner rather than later (or worse, not at all!). 

 

Besides that, a few neat little details we can glean: 

– Arioch Power Claw has a Vulcan Mega-bolter on the back – perhaps an update/alternative to the version on the card, which lacks a ranged attack?

– Mars-Beta head confirmed; but note that the heraldic shields match those of the unreleased prototype, rather than those supplied with the Mars Beta. I'm hopeful, therefore that the sprue contains both heads, rather than two variants of the Mars Beta (i.e. as per the original model).

– The implication of this sprue is that there's a third weapon sprue on its way. I'll refine my earlier prediction as: two Quake Cannons, one Gatling blaster; paired Carapace Galting Blasters; the Lucius-pattern head and a fourth new design of head.

Powerclaw has option to take mega bolter. Maybe kit has both too? Also, maybe they´re making more weapon options, such as lascutter later on?


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Yeah, there’s nothing here precluding them releasing the sprue as a separate option later (or even at the same time) - but the lack of any news on that while dropping a full Warlord kit first when the expectation they have been building for a year plus is “Hey it’s designed for use with magnets so you can get the weapon packs for more options” makes for some terrible optics. Especially for the Warlord, as most people will already have all the Warlord chassis they were planning on getting.

 

On top of that - and I hate to keep coming back to what was said in the pre-release period - Andy Hoare and the specialist game staff placed even more emphasis on the design of the titan kits, the whole skeleton/armour/weapons on one sprue each thing and how this would allow them to create upgrades easily. Which is good design and has potential... but if we still have to buy a fresh warlord to actually take advantage of this, what's the point?

 

(I honestly can't recall if the terms being used were "weapons upgrade sprues" or "weapons upgrade packs", and, to play devil's advocate, the point might have been that if SG didn't produce the kits in this way then the upgrades simply may never have been made at all but I'm still comfortable calling it quite the fumble on SG's/FW's/GW's part and not just fans misinterpreting things)







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