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Do you have a source on that? I think the ruling was based on "setting up," not on being reserves.

 

 

The thing I saw was that the part about "setting up" was removed from the FAQ, and now only counts against models that are actually coming in as "reserves" not models that just started on the table. 

Thats the way it is RAW due to the FAQ part 2.  Least as far as I am aware.

The BRB still says a unit set up mid-turn can't move any further that turn. It's only the FAQ that lets them charge at all. I don't think you could warptime them, raw.
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It would be nice to see the Icon do something other than mortal wounds. We already have smite spam and the mutalith. Do we really need more? It'd be nice to see a defensive bonus on it. Perhaps a bonus to overwatch, or something to deter melee attackers. Or an aura to help mitigate Perils even Or if we had some other trait, have the Icon boost power ranges. There's lots of things it could do that'd be more interesting.

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Agreed, I've echoed that the icon needs a more imaginative rule. It feels like a mega afterthought.

 

GW employee 1

"Hey guys the codex goes to the printers tommarow!"

 

GWE2

"Sounds good, man this rubric marine kit is so cool, what did you do with your icon of flame?"

 

GWE1

"Icon of what? Aww nuts, better make a rule for this part. Quick, think of a rule that's super easy and barely works so theres no chance it could be considered OP"

 

It would be awesome if it could be a throwback to the 3.5 codex and work like a talisman of tzeentch. Enemy Units within 12" are at -1 for psy tests.

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Hmm, what is a daemonic icon? If it is the icon of flame, it has gone up in points. I wonder what its new rules will be. If there is no change it will get out of the armoury even less than it does now.

 

Wow the point reductions are pretty good.

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Hmm, what is a daemonic icon? If it is the icon of flame, it has gone up in points. I wonder what its new rules will be. If there is no change it will get out of the armoury even less than it does now.

 

Wow the point reductions are pretty good.

 

Daemonic Icon is for Horrors.

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The unit of Rubric I run as a staple (10 strong, unit leader with stave, Soul Reaper) went from 220 to 195.  A 25 point saving per squad. Very nice... 

 

The engines I run all dropped down in points, and the helbrutes I run all dropped in points. Loving what I am seeing. 

 

Also anyone else get the feeling that our terminator sorcerers are supposed to be auto-includes? feels more and more like it lol

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I don't have my codex in front of me but those look like pretty good changes.

 

Edit: the flamer and screamer went down in points, but the horrors did not go down. Then why include them in the points table...unless its codifying FAQs.

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It's really good, Daemons got some nice drops too, but now I'm wondering if it'll actually make a difference as it seems everyone is getting some nifty reductions? If so, seems that CA may be more directed at internal balances... which feels like a good thing to me.

 

I'm getting my first Sons finished this week all going well, so I'm keen to make the most of these point changes :D

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Wow, right on for inferno rubrics!! 16 points w inferno is awesome! Warpflamer is where we heard it would land so good news there and also great news on SRC.

 

Not quite the reduction on SOT though everybit helps i suppose (though i really was hoping for 26 as rumored) and dont see their bolters listed.

 

Also happy that there is no increase to Goatbirds though I did not have a problem with them going up 1 point.

 

Also heard on Dakka the we and GK still have mini smite... is that confirmed? Wasnt sure if there were rules tweeks elsewhere though probably not.

 

Fantastic news on MVB also.

 

Anyone plan on using a LOC? I want one though have held off. With a big reduction I am now seriously wanting one. What role do you think it best serves? I have also wanted to get a couple boxes of screamers and a full unit of splitting horrors. Though not a preferred strategy by most from what I have read I am better off having demons on the table rather than summoning though summoning seems fun. Throw some screamers at some tanks and horrors on objectives etc... though I know the Summoner cannot move and summon which would be cool for the LOC and of course disk sorcerers.

 

I also play Nids as my 2nd army so double thanks!

 

Yeah the Termie Sorcerer is a surprise. I thought we all took at least 1 all ready, lol.

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Its not 16 points with inferno, its 16 points without it.

 

The PISTOL became free, not the bolter, who is till 2 points.

 

 

 

Any changes to smites for GK/TS are not confirmed or denied in any way.

Then again, some people seem to have the book in hand (as pictures are floating), so most likely there is no such change.

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Well I still plan on rubrics anyway. I was surprised at first because a lot of standard wargear is free for a lot of troops though inferno bolters are certainly not standard and was not expecting a reduction at all for them.

 

Yes a points reduction for Magnus would have been cool, must be another demon primarch on the way, lol.

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Ok, I'm going to be the paranoid here.

 

I suspect these are fake, along with the rest of the dump.

 

I just find a fair bit of graphic mismatches when I zoom in to the text. not enough to be condemning (I'm no expert), but enough to make me suspect someone made a pretty good phtoshop, printed it, and then intentionally made medium-quality images to cover the blurs.

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Ok, I'm going to be the paranoid here.

 

I suspect these are fake, along with the rest of the dump.

 

I just find a fair bit of graphic mismatches when I zoom in to the text. not enough to be condemning (I'm no expert), but enough to make me suspect someone made a pretty good phtoshop, printed it, and then intentionally made medium-quality images to cover the blurs.

They faked the entire book including new artwork showcased in the strategem section for ultras? Id like to meet this person and hire him for some graphic design work if thats the case lol

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The "leak" isn't the entire book, its just the points update section, and not a single piece of artwork there is new.

 

Also, just found another mismatch. why are bloodcrushers 47 points, exactly like the codex, even listed?

Or why does the GK termi cost makes no sense.

 

 

I'm sorry, but something is off here. even if not fake, its probably not the real CA but some sort of early version that got out somehow.

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The "leak" isn't the entire book, its just the points update section, and not a single piece of artwork there is new.

 

Also, just found another mismatch. why are bloodcrushers 47 points, exactly like the codex, even listed?

Or why does the GK termi cost makes no sense.

 

 

I'm sorry, but something is off here. even if not fake, its probably not the real CA but some sort of early version that got out somehow.

 

In the Vigilus thread in rumors there are several pages from Vigilus as well with artwork behind the strategem page and such. The timing coincides. If these are fake i will be *very* impressed. 

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Unit of 10 Rubrics now costs 195, down from 220.

Unit of 5 Scarab Occult with full load out (reaper/missiles) is now 211, down from 238.

 

All of our engines have also had significant point drops. Looks like our Daemon Engines and dust bunnies will be getting lots of table time

Good point Son I did not consider the other wargear combined with a 3 point reduction per model

That is a great savings on a 5 man squad who usually is escorting a termie Sorcerer in my lists making the overll termie package better. Throw in a cheaper MVB to buff str and BAM!

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Yeah the Termie Sorcerer is a surprise. I thought we all took at least 1 all ready, lol.

I guess they want to clear out their stock of these old kits.

 

I'm still wondering why an exalted sorcerer cannot put on TDA and leaves the good armour for his apprentice.:wallbash:

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