Fire Wolf Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Found on Reddit, discuss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 more storm shields and powerfists! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Wolf Posted December 7, 2018 Author Share Posted December 7, 2018 Yeah I might have to start a new army just so my local group doesn't hate me! (Viking shield wall intensifies!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonewolf81 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 thunderwolves got cheaper so thats a good thing but they didnt drop the points of the tactical marines / grey hunters/ bloodclaws etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteySödes Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 thunderwolves got cheaper so thats a good thing but they didnt drop the points of the tactical marines / grey hunters/ bloodclaws etc Where are you getting that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonewolf81 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 They got cheaper because stormshields went from 10 to 2 points. And you always give them shields Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteySödes Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 They got cheaper because stormshields went from 10 to 2 points. And you always give them shields Until we get a FAQ "Stormshield (Thunderwolf Cavalry)" is still 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arentius Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 They got cheaper because stormshields went from 10 to 2 points. And you always give them shields I hope so but they always had a seperate 3rd entry so they may have been omitted in copy paste. I for one am happy that about 300 points just dropped off my list, I did wanna experiment with a squad of Hellblasters after all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havok13 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Twin multi melta 40 points. Good for the fliers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonewolf81 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Wraiths with build in 3+ invu are 48 why shoud TWC be 50 . Also character shields went to 10 pts. Even with 2 pts shields they are hardly playable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 All in all I think its good. But I think they should have reduced cost on grey hunters (and anything power armor in general across all armies) because the 20 point difference between bare intercessors and bare grey hunters gets you +1 wound, attack, Ap, leadership and 6" more range per model. How is that equivalent to 20 points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonewolf81 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 4 points per model for +1 wound , -1 AP, longer range and +1 melee attack i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteySödes Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Wraiths with build in 3+ invu are 48 why shoud TWC be 50 . Also character shields went to 10 pts. Even with 2 pts shields they are hardly playable Email them? I don't know what you're arguing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Wraiths with build in 3+ invu are 48 why shoud TWC be 50 . Also character shields went to 10 pts. Even with 2 pts shields they are hardly playable you know our character shields are currently higher than 10 right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonewolf81 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 I know ... the 2pts shields hardly playable was going for the T-Wolves not the characters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulwyf Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 I wish we had gotten point reductions on TWC and Wulfen. TWC especially need the point reduction. The storm shield point reduction needs to apply to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 I was assuming TWC and Wulfen both get 2pt Shields. Am I wrong? Hammernators seem to have come down in price too. Combined with the drop in Land Raiders, I am tempted to try running Arjac's shield brothers in an LRC again. Not massive changes but enough to make some of our more iconic units a little more appealing. Also I think Grey Hunters benefit from cheaper plasma guns. The photo is a but fuzzy but it looks like they are down to 11 points which is almost as much as bringing Hunters down to 11ppm if you run MSU. My wolves have been doing well and it looks like they get a few extra points to play with which is cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thymidine Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Here's a breakdown of all of the changes. Unit Old Points CA Points Difference Contemptor Dreadnought 98 88 -10 Dreadnought 70 60 -10 Drop Pod 83 63 -20 Hunter 90 80 -10 Intercessors 18 17 -1 Land Raider 239 200 -39 Land Raider Crusader 244 200 -44 Land Raider Redeemer 244 180 -64 Land Speeders 70 50 -20 Primaris Wolf Lord 87 78 -9 Primaris Wolf Priest 88 80 -8 Redemptor Dreadnought 140 105 -35 Repulsor 210 185 -25 Rune Priest in Terminator Armor 120 102 -18 Servitors 2 5 3 Skyclaws 16 15 -1 Swiftclaw Attack Bikes 35 25 -10 Swiftclaws 23 21 -2 Venerable Dreadnought 90 80 -10 Wolf Guard 15 14 -1 Wolf Guard Cataphractii Terminators 30 26 -4 Wolf Guard Tartaros Terminators 26 23 -3 Wolf Guard Terminators 26 23 -3 Wolf Lord in Cataphractii Armour 126 95 -31 Wolf Lord in Gravis Armour 102 90 -12 Wolf Lord in Terminator Armour 105 95 -10 Wolf Priest in Terminator Armour 105 95 -10 Astartes grenade launcher 11 6 -5 Auto bolt rifle 1 1 0 Auxilliary grenade launcher 1 0 -1 Bolt pistol 0 0 0 Bolt rifle 0 0 0 Cerberus launcher 5 0 -5 Chainfist 22 11 -11 Chainsword 0 0 0 Combi-flamer 11 8 -3 Combi-melta 19 15 -4 Combi-plasma 15 11 -4 Cyclone missile launcher 50 38 -12 Dreadnought combat weapon 40 30 -10 Flamer 9 6 -3 Flamestorm gauntlets 18 15 -3 Frag grenades 0 0 0 Grenade harness 8 0 -8 Heavy flamer 17 14 -3 Heavy onslaught gatling cannon 36 30 -6 Heavy plasma cannon 30 16 -14 Icarus stormcannon 17 10 -7 Krak grenades 0 0 0 Master-crafted power sword 10 6 -4 Meltagun 17 14 -3 Missile launcher 25 20 -5 Multi-melta 27 22 -5 Plasma cannon 21 16 -5 Plasma gun 13 11 -2 Plasma pistol 7 5 -2 Power fist 12 9 -3 Power sword 4 4 0 Reaper autocannon 18 10 -8 Servo-arm 12 0 -12 Sniper rifle 4 2 -2 Stalker bolt rifle 2 0 -2 Storm shield (Characters) 15 10 -5 Storm shield (other models) 5 2 -3 Twin lascannon 50 40 -10 Twin multi-melta 54 40 -14 Typhoon missile launcher 50 38 -12 Volkite charger 6 3 -3 Whirlwind castellan launcher 25 15 -10 Whirlwind vengeance launcher 34 20 -14 Wrist-mounted grenade launcher 4 0 -4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karack Blackstone Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 It was asked if Grey Hunters are now 11 ppm. Did Space Marine Tacticals drop to 11 points? If so, this seems likely; if not, it might be worth looking into further... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thymidine Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 No change for any power armor troops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Two Wolf Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 This is all good news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackalwolf Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Any idea if the Thawk or the Spartan got cheaper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoyo ninja Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Did the Big FAQ not up the maximum models count in Skyclaws packs to 15 models? Because this has them back at 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadir Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Now all of my WGPL will have a storm shield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Nord in Gravis Armour Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Did the Big FAQ not up the maximum models count in Skyclaws packs to 15 models? Because this has them back at 10. I wouldn't worry about that - if there were a rules change involved, it would have been called out. It's entirely possible that Chapter Approved was already sent to the printers before the Big FAQ 2 was dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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