maverike_prime Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 So I've lost count of what version of the Warhound I'm up to at this point, but thats besides the point. I'm working on a scratch build Warhound titan again. I choose to blame Blackadder for inspiring me to undertake this insanity.I've done a couple previous builds of this titan, each time improving on the prior effort and I'm doing that once again with this project. I wanted to up the detail level of the model overall. With some plan in mind, I started with the lower leg segment. Rather than building a box, as directed in the original plans, I measured out the parts for a tube, and then wrapped various sizes of cardboard and cardstock around that tube to build up the details on the lower section of it. I then affixed a boxed section for where the joint will rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Great to see you back Mav :tu: Looking forward to seeing the project progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearson73 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I'm a big fan of scratch building, so I'm eager to follow your progress; I'll make sure to check out your previous iterations too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I wish I had the patience for this kind of thing, I think you are off to a good start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverike_prime Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 I'm a big fan of scratch building, so I'm eager to follow your progress; I'll make sure to check out your previous iterations too. hehe, enjoy the documented Psychosis! I wish I had the patience for this kind of thing, I think you are off to a good start. patience is the key point for this sort of project. But I've also found it helps to do it in small steps. Don't commit to finishing the Turbo Lasers tonight, commit to finishing one of the barrels for the Turbo Lasers tonight. That kind of thing. Of course then I go and do something balls to the wall crazy like this ankle. I wanted the ankle to allow rotation and bending. This was a challenge but I had a thought about how to accomplish it. By layering cardboard with a central point of rotation, I can build a strong hinge joint that will still allow the bend. By building that hinge into a rounded base, I can allow it to rotate. At least that's the plan. So the first thing was to design the ankle to allow it to bend forward and backwards. That is where this piece comes into play: The second thing was to design a bace for that part that would allow the ankle to rotate, which lead to this: Then I needed to brace the enitre assemble so that it would stand up to the stresses. To do that I built a block and carved it down. Basically I took about 20 layers of cardboard, saturated them in glue, pressed them together under pressure and allowed that to dry. I then came in and carved that block down into the shape I needed. Which was this: I then wrapped all of that up in a couple layers of cardboard for strength. The longer segments at the top will slide into the leg section I built previously and then intertwin with parts from the lower knee when I build that. The axil itself is actually just a Q-tip body that passes through all the segments to form a two way hinge. Here is the video of the entire joint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverike_prime Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 I'm not too thrilled with the design of the toes in the original plans, so I started working on that. The original plans are laid out so that each toe has a central shaft that connects it to the foot and the toe itself basically caps over that shaft. In theory, you're supposed to attach something to count as pistons to each side of the toe after building that. In my last build, I added several layers of surface detail to the toes (first image) which was... alright. Even then I wasn't particularly happy with the design and final appearance of the toes. I took some of the measurements from the original plans and worked some extrapolation on them to come up with sizes, and then filled in those sizes with designs I liked a bit more, drawing some inspiration from the Mars patter Warhound, but allowing for Lucifer style to be built up from it as well. I'm starting mostly from scratch... and boy did I managed to screw this up a couple times already. One of the reasons I'm working in cardboard and paper is so that I can afford to screw up like this. So first off, each layer of cardboard is roughly .5mm thick when flat. So to span 7mm, I figured I needed 14 layers of cardboard. Well... not quit. See when I'm punching the holes in the cardboard, and then drilling those holes to the proper size so that I can assemble a joint, the cardboard partly separates, and form a 'raised mound', increasing the overall thickness of the cardboard to about .8mm. .8mm times 14 layers work out to be about 11.2mm thick. yeah... so that didn't work too well. So I started over and this time measured each layer I added. Turns out 8 layers of cardboard works out to be pretty close to 7mm in this process. I've designed the toe with a double joint, one at the bottom of the knuckle and one at the top so that it can flex. Will provide some options for posing and basing when I get to that point. I also added a tread pattern on the bottom of the toe. I know, I know, this is going to sound like bragging, but it's still a relevant point. Realize that I've taken plans that were originally at most 12 parts, and come up with an insane re-model that currently 80 parts, and will very likely exceed 100 before I am finished with it. Yeah, I'll take that certification of my insanity now thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearson73 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Wow, I'd never thought of laminating many sheets together to make a block, what an interesting idea. And to go for movable parts in a papercraft project, most ambitious. The tread pattern is a good detail, I always find it's the smaller details such as treads and rivets that crown scratchbuilds as a success, more than the superstructure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverike_prime Posted January 16, 2019 Author Share Posted January 16, 2019 Wow, I'd never thought of laminating many sheets together to make a block, what an interesting idea. And to go for movable parts in a papercraft project, most ambitious. The tread pattern is a good detail, I always find it's the smaller details such as treads and rivets that crown scratchbuilds as a success, more than the superstructure. one of the really nice things about paper craft is that it's dirt cheap. So even if you have a major screw up (I've had a couple already)... so what? At most it costs you is the work time and a couple cereal boxes. Call your friends and tell 'em to save their cereal boxes and the like. Chances are you'll have the material to try again in under a week. I figured out the stacked sheets for strength a while back when I was working on my Hell Screamer project (No idea if it's still here on the boards), but basically I was building a chaos fighter more or less based on the Hell Talon and on one iteration I tried stacking up 8 sheets of cardboard, drenching them in glue and cutting out the body from that. Noooot the best suggestion for a large part, but for smaller mounting bits like this, it works out well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearson73 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 It certainly does have that going for it, it's one of the things that first got me into it, plus the extra freedom you have in design choices. Without the benefit of what are essentially free materials, my orbital assault list would be severely laking in drop pods and my other forces in Rhinos, etc. I am considering upgrading to plasticard, as I think a finer finish can be achieved, but I'll have to experiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverike_prime Posted January 18, 2019 Author Share Posted January 18, 2019 And I give you... the toe! Sort of. I've been working on the design of the toe for the Warhound and I've gotten to a 'complete' stage... but I'm not thrilled with the end result. The pistons.. seem wrong. So I'm gonna take this one back to the drawing board. The labor is rather intense for this and mistakes only compound it, but I'm not really sure how I can simplify the design any with out sacraficing integrity and details. The mounts for the pistons are made out of .5mm thick sheet-styrene that is then afixed to the mounts for the toe knuckle. The rest is fiarly straight forward I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearson73 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 The pistons certainly look good to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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