I suppose that speaks far more to the community's inability to adequately identify good solutions.
Isn’t this just a case of the rich get richer?
If you listed the bolter archetypes in a rough descending order of strength:
- Hurricane Bolters
- Deathwatch Stormbolters
- Inferno Stormbolters
- Deathwatch Bolters
- Sternguard Bolters
- Inferno Bolters
- Bolt Rifles
you also get a descending list of how much benefit each type gets. That is, the stronger the weapon was, the more it benefits. Isn’t that the exact opposite of how buffs should work?
Don’t get me wrong, it’s great that Marines are getting buffed and that it’s being done in small increments rather than leaps and bounds. But if this rule had been posted on this or another forum as a proposed rule it wouldn’t have survived the first page before being ripped to shreds as a terrible idea.
Particularly given your entire argument completely (conveniently?) forgot to address the platforms those weapons are on.
For example, hurricane bolters are found on Land Raider Crusaders, Devastator Centurions, Ironclad Dreads, Corvus Blackstars, and Storm Ravens. So yes, they all received a handful of extra S4 shooting from 12"-24", but were those units really considered "the rich"?
Honestly, there's one outlier and it's Deathwatch. However, for those familiar with Deathwatch, Veterans rarely engaged outside of storm bolter rapid fire range because they had the tools to ensure they never have to. This change boosts Terminator squads and Bikers by providing more tactical options with those units in particular, whereas there's still a massive disincentive to ever march Veterans up the field quite that way.
So yeah, Deathwatch storm bolters can now do their full damage from 12"-24" if they're stationary. But an army with so few models can't afford to remain stationary if you're intending to play to the mission. This will have a negligible impact on their efficacy because of their common use in a match - a fact that wasn't taken into account when you proclaimed the rich got richer.
As far as feedback goes, I want to highlight two issues, one major and one minor.
This gap was already pretty big between the more expensive auto bolt rifle and the standard rapid fire one, now the gap is wider, further devaluing that option. Similarly, there's little reason to select the stalker here given how effective backline camping bolt rifles can be now.
And a minor beef...the relic rules state you have to replace a rapid fire bolt rifle with a relic that is also rapid fire, which means the new Duty's Burden Crimson Fists rifle is only ever gaining this benefit when you give it to an Ancient since no other character carries a bolt rifle. That can't be intentional.
Edited by Lemondish, 21 January 2019 - 11:29 PM.